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Group -- I have had some interesting responses to my questions about the 3M and Gaylord seurity systems. The following is somewhat lengthy: ======================================================================== 34 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:26:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Gloria McClanahan <mcclan@tenet.edu> Subject: Re: 3M/Gaylord Hi, Floyd, We did have the problem with the computer monitor shutting down the security system. 3M told us that we should get rid of the computer system! We finally redesigned our circulation desk. 3M is just not a helpful bunch. We pay $1,400.00 a year for a maintenance agreement that I am afraid to discontinue because we have had so many problems. And 3M charges a minimum of something like $150.00 per house call. The set up they designed was flawed; they refused to do anything about it. Wheel chairs could not enter--which means equipment going out was a major pain. Did you look at Knogo? I'll use anything but 3M next time! Gloria ======================================================================== 33 Be carefull when buying the 3M system. They have two major models availabe. I do not have my note with me because I'M responding from home. The least expensive of the two will not operate properly if set up within 6 feet of a computer monitor. (What library doesn't have a circulation computer within 6 feet of their security system, or wish that is was closer.) In addition, you must make sure that flourescent lighting within 15 feet of the security system does NOT have the new type of energy saver ballast starters. (receint remodeling or future remodeling could present a problem) The system will not work properly if either of these conditions exist. Their newer mor expensive model (about $2000.00 more) will work under either of these two conditions. Consult with your 3M representative!! Larry Weidner IN "media02@uwstout.edu" ======================================================================== 35 Jul 94 14:12:30 LCL Received: from Gayle-Gaston.tenet.edu by SUVM.SYR.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) We are having the Gaylord system installed on our district's Professional Library as I type. Part of the specifications for the project was that this system be compatible with 3M-type detection strips that were installed in some of the materials (this library is a joint school district/university library and the university materials already had 3M strips installed for the main campus library). Gaylord certainly met that requirement, and they were substantially less expensive (about $3000) than the 3M system and about $2000 cheaper than Knogo. We didn't entertain bids from Checkpoint because of the compatibility problem. Ordinarily we install Checkpoint systems - they are as reliable and they are less expensive, plus you don't have to worry about computers and can tag virtually any item. 3M et al will not allow you to tag computer diskettes or their cases. Carol Mann Simpson csimpson@tenet.edu Facilitator - Library Technology 214 882-7450 Mesquite (TX) Independent School District ======================================================================== 42 Hello, I hope this info is helpful to you. We had nothing but trouble with the 3M Security System for 4 years running, until I posted a message on the LM_NET, and heard from others around the country. Now granted, we did have the older 3M system (and it has been improved), but any computer interference in the LMC was rendering our system for security useless. Since the advent of CD-ROM's and so many computerized online catalog systems (which we added), it's hard not to have intereference of any sort. Our school system purchased only 3 of the 3M Security Systems, and then switched to the Gaylord Security System because of this problem. We had to threaten to sue 3M if they didn't finally do something to help us, and finally, they did do something last year, and shields were installed around our monitors and they configured the system differently, and it now works. However, I would not recommend them to you. No one in our system has had trouble of any kind with the Gaylord System -- only the unfortunate 3 of us who have 3M Systems. Good luck, and let me know how things go. -- ----- Joann Tillberg, Library Media Specialist Salem High School 1993 SunDevil Drive Virginia Beach, Va. 23464 VaPen = jtillber@pen.k12.va.us FAX = 474-8483