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>X-From_: MAILER-DAEMON Wed Apr 1 14:13:08 1998 >>From 1 Wed Apr 1 14:13:08 1998 >Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:13:07 -0500 (EST) >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> >To: <597063@ican.net> >Subject: Returned mail: User unknown >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > >The original message was received at Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:12:56 -0500 (EST) >from ppp-017.m2-1.syr.ican.net [204.92.4.17] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > >>>We have 3M security system and are pleased with its results, at least >>>with >>>the books. We insert the strips in the inside of the book. We were so >>>pleased with the book strips that we allowed the salesperson to talk us >>>into the strips for video tapes, cassette tapes, and CDs. Since our >>>video >>>collection was used extensively, we decided to put the strips on the >>>video >>>tapes using the location they suggested and the two devices for >>>desensitizing and sensitizing the tapes as they went out and were >>>returned. >>> This was done last school year. To our surprise and chagrin this >>>school >>>year, the video tapes suddenly began to go bad--teachers began reporting >>>wavy lines, snowy pictures, fluctuating sounds, etc., on tapes that had >>>not >>>previously given us trouble. Even the new tapes we ordered and placed >>>the >>>strips on began to go bad at an alarmingly-frequent rate. We talked to >>>the >>>sales representative who seemed surprised at our inquiry about the >>>effectiveness of the tapes and the possibility that the strips were >>>causing >>>the tapes to go bad. He suggested that we may have been placing them >>>too >>>close to the book sensitizing machine or too close to the computer or >>>too >>>close to the tv itself, etc. We had not done any of those things, but >>>he >>>refused to admit that the strips may be the problem. Well, since then, >>>we >>>have stopped putting the tapes on our new videos and have removed the >>>strips from the older tapes. Of course, some tapes still do go bad, >>>especially if they are used frequently, but we have not experienced the >>>high number of reports that we had been receiving in September. Just a >>>word of warning about the strips for audiovisual materials. Hope this >>>helps. >>> >>> >>> Rita Legan, Library Media Specialist >>> Bolivar High School >>> 1401 N. Pomme de Terre Ave. >>> Bolivar, MO 65613 >>> email: leganri@bolivar-r1.k12.mo.us >>> phone: 417-326-5228 >>> fax: 417-326-4325 >>> >>> >>> >>>We've been using a Checkpoint electromagnetic system (EM5000) for 2 years. >>>It works well and we've gotten good support from the company. I would >>>recommend it to others. >>> >>>Dave Thomas, Library Media Specialist >>>Marinette High School, Marinette, WI 54143 (715) 732-7931 >>> \__ o__ >>> LM_Netters: >>>Thanks to everyone who responded to the call for feedback regarding >>>Security Systems: >>>I am in a middle school in Houston, TX. We have the 3M system using >>>tattletale strips in the books. It has been very successful for us, but >>>it took a looong time to arm our collection. I have only called for >>>technical assistance once and their response was very quick. My major >>>complaint was catalogs did not explain all the requirements. For >>>example, the bookcheck unit to sensitize and desensitize or what type of >>>strips to buy for your collection. Good luck with whichever system you >>>decide to go with. >>>-------------------------- >>>One thing to beware of..... >>> >>>We had our security installed in the summer and it worked fine (3-M). >>> >>>But, being an older school like so many out there, electricity outlets >>>are >>>at a premium. When all the teachers came back in September, turned on >>>their >>>fans, computers, Channel 1 tvs., etc., we didn't have enough >>>electricity. >>>Apparently when there are brownouts (not blackouts, but a reduction in >>>the >>>amount of juice available), the security system doesn't always work >>>properly. I've moved around a bunch of equipment and tried to dedicate >>>circuits to the security gates. But I still don't have enough outlets >>>to be >>>able to laminate and print at the same time and be sure the security >>>detectors are actually detecting. >>>----------------------- >>>We have the 3M tattletape system in our library. It's been in place >>>since we moved to our new building in 1993. We had an older model in >>>our >>>old building which didn't work as well. Overall. we are pleased, but >>>there are a few things to consider. >>>- the maintenance contract (which covers the gates as well as the >>>sensitizing/desensitizing units) is EXPENSIVE! We nearly didn't renew >>>it this year due to the increase, but the circulation staff rebelled, so >>>we did renew it. >>>- the strips, while available for print, videos, CDs, audio cassettes, >>>etc. are expensive. >>>- you need to buy special (but relatively inexpensive) sensitizers and >>>desensitizers for audio and video cassettes - non-magnetic units. You >>>can use the regular book units with CDs. >>>- We use large plants between and on either side of our two gates (one >>>exit, one entrance). The leaves of one plant blocked the sensor on the >>>gate, and since we had no idea what was wrong, we had to call the >>>service >>>tech. >>>- The gates are picking up small (fraction of an inch in length) >>>security >>>strips that convenience stores are putting on candy, mints, gum, >>>cigarettes, etc. We have to be very careful when we ask >>>students/faculty/staff/administrators to step back to the circ desk, and >>>we try to explain this to them. The textbook publishers are also >>>putting strips in their textbooks since many colleges/universities have >>>open shelf bookstores. We are really busy the first couple weeks of >>>each semester explaining that to the students! >>> >>>I would recommend this system. >>>----------------------- >>> >>>Ours is the Knogo system now owned by 3M. It has been pretty realiable. >>> >>>----------------------- >>>NOT GAYLORD!!! It has never worked properly in four years. The >>>salesperson came to our site twice before we purchased it. Said the site >>>was fine for his system. When it started alarming with no targets nearby >>>-- suddenly it was our mercury vapor lights that was causing the problem >>>-- then he claimed it was the electrical line -- etc. >>> >>>My only suggestion - when you negotiate a contract -- if you are not >>>satisfied with the product within one year -- you don't pay a dime for >>>the equipment or supplies. >>>--------------------------------- >>>We have had Checkpoint for over ten years and are happy with it. >>>it has been remarkably trouble-free, and has certainly cut way down on >>>our >>>book loss. >>>-------------------------------- >>>------------------------------------ >>> >>>We've been using a Checkpoint electromagnetic system (EM5000) for 2 >>>years. >>>It works well and we've gotten good support from the company. I would >>>recommend it to others. >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>We use Checkpoint, and it works well, considering ours is 10 years old. >>>Some kids know how to beat it - surprise - but I'd rather have a book >>>pocket torn out than the book torn apart, as it would be with >>>Tattletape. The service men are efficient and helpful. Our district no >>>longer has a service contract, but we haven't had to call too much. Our >>>newest problem is that students seem to have the idea that the security >>>is in the bar codes. I have no idea where that came from! I'd be sure to >>>get the turnstile, though. Otherwise, a student who has a book is gone >>>before you can get to the gate. >>>Good luck! >>>--------------------------------- >>>We've been using a Checkpoint electromagnetic system (EM5000) for 2 >>>years. >>>>It works well and we've gotten good support from the company. I would >>>>recommend it to others. >>> >>>Thanks again! >>>Nancy Bentley >>>LMS/CIT >>>Mann Middle School >>>Colorado Springs, CO 80904 >>>nbent@clsp.uswest.net >>> >>>And thank you again to all who responded! >>> >>>Linda Young, Librarian >>>Hannibal Jr.-Sr. High Library >>>Hannibal, NY 13074 >>>597063@ican.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=