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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFE792.888C49C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry this is so late but have been extremely busy with end of school and then trips after school. Hope this will be useful for some of you for next year. We teach Proquest, but show them what Reader's Guide looks like (just in case they move to a school that uses it.) We've gone to all online searching, but we are a k-12 school and the library serves all the grade levels, so it is available to the elementary at no extra cost. Pam, why not get RG online too? Or as a cdrom? The indexing is the same, the subject headings haven't changed, and it's not that green book on the table anymore. I'll admit that I'm a bit prejudiced <grin>, but I feel you could teach both the print and online and have the students get a better understanding of searching for information... which is what it's really about. I don't teach Reader's Guide any more. I don't even keep it up-to date. I order the last year's hard copies at a discount. The few kids who do use it, leave it to last minute and they usually need the articles yesterday when ILL can take up to a week or more, even with Faxing! I will use ProQuest direct(free for me) next year, but I understand that it's geared towards public libraries. I hope to use EBSCO online in a couple years. As a public librarian, who also has electronic databases for magazine articles, I still show high school students Readers' Guide. I have found that the "see also" headings provide them with "hyperlinks" to related articles that aren't found if keyword searching is done in the electronic format. The Readers' Guide also helps the students see the relationships(because of the "see also") between different ideas. I took the plunge and stopped getting the reader's guide this year. We now use only Ebsco on-line.I still have the old Reader's Guides around, but we only use those in an emergency. I "teach" the EBSCO through Health - the kids have to get current articles on particular topics, so I am able to do a little class instruction, (and this way am able to hit the seventh and eighth graders as well as the sixth with whom I still have regularly scheduled "library skills.") but mostly do one-on-one while they are searching for articles. I haven't had a Reader's Guide subscription since 1994 or '95. I'm doing the same kind of instruction using the periodical database we subscribe to. This is what they'll find in our public and college libraries, so I want them to be prepared. Interesting Question. Questions about the Reader's Guide are still on the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. But, in Georgia, we have this wonderful resource funded by the state which includes, three EBSCO magazine database, ProQuest magazine database, encyclopedias, and much, much more. The Reader's Guide is not necessary. I don't purchase it anymore. Next year before the ITBS I will explain to the students what it is and how it works. On the ITBS reference section, there were a total of 38 questions, five of which pertained to the Reader's Guide. Pam Chowning Ezell-Harding Christian High pchowning@home.com <mailto:pchowning@home.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFE792.888C49C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01BFE792.869DE740"> <title>We teach Proquest, but show them what Reader's Guide looks like = (just in case they move to a school that uses it</title> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:DoNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Sorry this is so late but have = been extremely busy with end of school and then trips after school.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Hope this will be useful for = some of you for next year. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>We teach Proquest, but show them what Reader's Guide looks like (just in = case they move to a school that uses it.) We've gone to all = online<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>searching, but we are a k-12 school and the library serves all the grade levels, so = it is available to the elementary at no extra = cost.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Pam, why not get RG online too? Or as a cdrom?<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>The indexing is <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>the same, the subject headings haven't changed, and it's not that = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>green book on the table anymore. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I'll admit that I'm a bit prejudiced <grin>, but I feel you could teach = both the print and online and have the students get a better = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>understanding of searching for information... which is what it's = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>really about. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I don't teach Reader's Guide any more.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>I don't even keep it up-to date.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>I order the last year's hard copies at a discount. The few kids = who do use it, leave it to last minute and they usually need the articles = yesterday when ILL can take up to a week or more, even with Faxing! I will use = ProQuest direct(free for me) next year, but I understand that it's geared towards = public libraries.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I hope to use = EBSCO online in a couple years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As a public librarian, who also has electronic databases for magazine = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>articles, I still show high school students<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>Readers' Guide.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I = have found that the "see also" headings provide them with "hyperlinks" to related articles that aren't found if keyword searching is done in the electronic format.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The Readers' Guide also helps the students see the relationships(because of the "see also") between different = ideas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I took the plunge and stopped getting the reader's guide this year.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> = </span>We<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>now use only Ebsco on-line.I still have the old Reader's Guides = around,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>but we only use those in an emergency.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I "teach" the EBSCO through Health - the kids have to get = current articles on particular topics, so I am able to do a little class = instruction, (and this way am able to hit the seventh and eighth graders as well as = the sixth with whom I still have regularly scheduled "library = skills.") but mostly do one-on-one while they are searching for = articles.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I haven't had a Reader's Guide subscription since 1994 or '95.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I'm doing the same kind of = instruction using the periodical database we subscribe to. This is what they'll find = in our public and college libraries, so I want them to be = prepared.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Interesting Question.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Questions about = the Reader's Guide are still on the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>But, in Georgia, we have this = wonderful resource funded by the state which includes,<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>three EBSCO magazine database, ProQuest magazine = database, encyclopedias, and much, much more.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: = yes"> </span>The Reader's Guide is not necessary.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I don't purchase it anymore.<span = style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Next year before the ITBS I will explain to the = students what it is and how it works.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> = </span>On the ITBS reference section, there were a total of 38 questions, five of = which<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>pertained to the Reader's Guide.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Pam Chowning<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Ezell-Harding Christian High<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href=3D"mailto:pchowning@home.com">pchowning@home.com</a><o:p></o:p></spa= n></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFE792.888C49C0-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. 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