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Thanks to all who sent such practical suggestions for handling this need. I agree with the person who says Follett should work on this. The advantage of keeping it within the software is that you can then print reports and keep statistics. Special thanks to the large number of school librarians from New York state. You must have a tradition of helping out there that I admire! The majority of suggestions were similar to the following: You might try setting up a dummy patron group called "weeded" or some such moniker. This patron group could have virtually unlimited privileges, then each time you weed, or each section, could be a separate patron. Patron info would then keep track of the "checkouts" to that patron, and your catalog would show that the titles are out. Of course, then your patrons may expect to see it back on the shelf eventually, but you could give it a ridiculously late due date. At worst that would prompt questions, and might tell you who cares, so you could replace with an updated copy. I didn't say in the message that all my "library" patrons have a due date of after school is out in spring, and that way I know it is something different. The faculty patrons have a due date just before school is out, so I can almost always spot them as different from library patrons. I also didn't mention that a large majority of our new fiction books are read by someone in the school, and I check them out to Unprocessed Books so they are in the catalog, but not available. Other good suggestions: I just keep an on-going excel list for the year. I have columns for call number, author, title, reason weeded (mildew, outdated, bad shape, etc.) price, copyright date, date received, whether title is to be re-ordered or if there are other copies of the same title remaining. I, too, wish there were a function in Follett to do this, but meanwhile, this does work (p.s. I have the file saved to my c drive AND to a floppy in case my computer crashes). I usually try to weed several titles at one time, using the hand held scanner. After downloading, a window pops up saying there is an exception report and would I like to view it? I click on yes and print the report (you can also save it to a file). That's my hard copy of what I've weeded! The only way I have found, is if you delete the copy only...not the record. Then add a note in the record of when the item was weeded. A bit time consuming - but you can print a report of records without any copies. Good luck. Having just attended a Follett users meeting, a similar question was asked. A solution that I thought clever was this: Before deleting, check out item to patron named "deleted" That way, you can print out holdings of this patron and then really delete the copies and titles. Alternatively, you can create a category of "deleted," or something similar, run a report for this category, then really delete . . I don't have Follett, but our automation system has a patron named DISCARD. We can check items out to that patron and then batch delete it after we print it. We can also keep stats on this automatically. Can you create a patron like this? Maybe not as integrated, but it would at least keep items together until you want to get rid of them. Can you create a special material type that cannot be read in the catalog? I know this is possible in Winnebago. If so, you can store the item their until you are ready to tabulate your figures and delete, but it will be hidden away. I guess we can also make suggestions to Follett for things to include when they upgrade their software. The fact that the system doesn't have the capability to keep track of deleted items (even just the amount deleted) is ridiculous. Good luck. I use Follett, and it is true that once one deletes something, all records are gone. What I do is to check a book out to a patron I created called Discard. I have several patrons for special things, like Repair, Book Cover, Perma-Econo Replacement, and two Paid patrons. I keep last year's paid titles in for a year before I delete them, because we found they are frequently found over the summer and returned, and it was a pain to try to refund money as well as recreate the MARC record. I keep the Discard file for the entire school year, first printing the patron checkout list, then checking them in and then deleting them just about inventory time. Same for the last year's Paid titles. I put items like this in the lost books category. I have Winnebago and came across the same problem. However, I remembered about creating a patron type that moves all the students who are no longer in the school to a particular patron type and from which the names of students who owe nothing can be deleted. So I thought, perhaps when you delete a book, you can change the material type (one specified as "deleted") and then in location put NLA (no longer available). Then you would have a list of what you've deleted; you can print out a list of these titles only. Does this sound feasible? Val Metropoulos Teacher/Librarian Corvallis Middle School Corvallis, MT valm@corvallis.k12.mt.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. 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