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Here is the hit regarding copy machines in the library. My original = request was: <<I was wondering how many of you have a copy machine in the library for = student use. If so, did the school/library buy it outright or do you = contract it? Do you charge students to make copies? Do you have a coin = machine? If you bought your machine , I would be interested to know a = little about the machine. If you've contracted it, I would be = interested in knowing a little about your contract and service. Thank = you.>> Thank you for all your input. Cutting and pasting was the best options, = because the answers were so varied. =20 Esther -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We (library technology budget) bought a reconditioned Ricoh and a coin box. It works fine for limited usage. The kids/staff have to pay 10 cents per page. I have an override key for library needs. I have a service contract on it. Hope this helps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I work in a K-8 school and was unlucky enough to have the copy machine = in the library. It was not for student use unless a teacher was with = him or her. The noise of people coming and going and chatting as well as = the noise of the copier was horrendous. Luckily, this year, renovations = are done and the machine has been moved into the library storeroom. I = still have the traffic but the noise of the copier is no longer = competing with me.=20 Our school leases their copiers from Lanier. We just got a new one. Both = have been fairly servicable. I have become the copy machine queen as a = result of it being in the library. So prepare yourself for constantly = filling it up with paper, unjamming paper and reloading staple = cartridges. If your school does high volume printing, it doesn't seem to pay to buy. = Most schools lease them. The service contract is pretty good. Our high school charges students per page printed on the network = computers, but does not have a copy machine. We don't charge our = students for printing on our network computers and they have to have = teacher permission to do any copying. Good luck -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Yes, I have a copy machine in the library and could use another one. I do not handle the arrangements, but I know the copier is leased. I charge .15 per sheet for personal copies - including replacing lost handouts and workbook pages. Students pay me and I get to use the money for the library. I do not charge for school copies. Teachers here often ask students to bring the info back to the classroom where they supervise the note taking.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I have a small Canon NP___ (don't know exact model) desktop copier that = students and teachers both use for single copies, or up to 10 copies. = No classroom sets...we have a heavy duty copier in the teacher workroom = for that.=20 I charge the students 10 cents per page for personal use and nothing if = it is related to an assignment made by a teacher. It is not coin = operated. The machine was purchased outright for about $800. I've had = it in use for a little less than 2 years and so far have only had to = replace toner cartridge. I know that probably before too much longer I = will have to replace the drum since it's already past the "mileage" = where that should occur. We have no service contract on the machine, = but we bought it locally and service is available if we should need it.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I was wondering how many of you have a copy machine in the library for = =3D > student use. If so, did the school/library buy it outright or do you > =3Dcontract it? Consignment he collects the $ > Do you charge students to make copies? Yes > Do you have a coin machine? Yes -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- The school bought a coin operated copy machine for the library for = student use. My school is an elementary school (Pres to 8) and it used mostly by students in grades 6 through 8. Copies are .10. We also purchased the service contract, which has been worth the cost. The company does a = yearly maintenance on the copier and also comes out whenever there is a = problem. I don't usually have problems, but occasionally there is a problem with = coins getting stuck in the chute or some other minor problem. I don't remember = the model or the make of the machine (I am at home now) but it has been a godsend for me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I have an ancient copy machine for student use. I do not have a coin op = on it, but I do charge $0.10 per copy. I tried for a new one with a = contract, but that $1300.00 per year was cut from my budget for next year. I just keep hoping the old one holds together. Hope this helps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We just recently purchased a combo printer/copier that is attached to my = Circulation Desk computer. We purchased it outright and it is totally=20 monitored by me. It is intended to save wear and tear on our school = secretary=20 who has to deal with students wanting to copy pages from reference = books. =20 Basically it is just used by our 6-8th graders which includes about 95=20 students. I only let them use it when they cannot take notes or I do = not want=20 the book gone overnight. I do not charge them and so far it hasn't = amounted=20 to a large number of copies. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We do have a copy machine in our middle school media center. It is paid = for as one of the many copy machines the administration leases = throughout the district. Students are charged 10 cents per copy and = there is a coin box which only takes dimes. (There is also an override = key which we use when we want to make copies)It will do reductions and = copy onto letter and legal size paper. It also collates and will print = two sided copies. Sometimes teachers want to use this machine (for free and they want the = media center staff to do it for them!) but we discourage it. There are = two large copy machines in our building designed for larger quantity = copying which are available for staff use. And we don't make copies = routinely for staff as this would be our only function if we allowed it. = Students are sometimes confused by having to pay for copies on a copy = machine probably because we do not charge for printing sent to printers = from computers on the network. However, I see this nominal fee as a good = - if minor - "life experience" for students. In middle school it is not = unreasonable to expect students to plan and anticipate their study needs = and have a little bit of money to make sure they have supplies and = materials. (Our school serves a middle class community and these minor = expenses are not a burden for families) Students like having this = service and make use of it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I have a copy machine in the library for student use at a charge of 5 = cents a page. it is a low-end machine, does not copy double-sided unless you physically put the paper back into the tray. There is a separate coin-accepting machine hooked up to the copier. It = will take coins (not pennies), $1 and $5. I empty it at the end of the week = so there is relatively little money in it for theft. The machine is "rented" at a cost of $300 a month, even the summer = months as the company will not do a 9 month contract. It comes out of my budget. Sometimes I wish I had that money to buy books and technology! This fee includes service, toner, and the scanning light when it needs = replacement. I receive a monthly return postcard on which I must record the "counter" number. This way usage can be tracked and their furnishing the tone cartridges is based on usage. The money I receive for the students' copying goes into the fine fund = which is used to replace lost books and to buy paperback books without going through the school purchase order process. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We were given our copy machine by a local industry when they bought=20 new ones. Our students are allowed to use it but only to make copies for = school related projects - science projects, etc. My biggest problem is=20 explaining that it is illegal to copy from encyclopedias, books, etc.=20 Teachers are often times more trouble than the students. I have copies=20 of copyright explanations taped on the machine & on the wall above it,=20 but I'm not going to fight with another professional over whether or not = they're breaking the law. :-( I do, however, refuse to make illegal=20 copies for them. <sigh> This probably has nothing to do with what you=20 were asking, but it's probably something you should think about. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I have one copier in the library for student use (635 students). Up to = two years ago, we rented one and had the service agreement tied into that rental as did the school office - it was all one rental agreement but I = paid for part of the rental and service costs from my budget. Then, last = year when the library copier finally quite on us for the third time in a six = week period, I was told to research purchasing a new one. I also wanted a = coin machine attached to it. The school bought the copier and I bought the = coin machine. The cost of the service agreement on my copier is taken from my budget but is partially offset by the amount we collect for copies. I = charge 10 cents per copy but may consider increasing that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Hi, I have a copy machine in the library which was purchased by the = school. It actually is one that was used in the main office and was = given to the library when they got a new one. I don't charge for = student use, however, I do supervise what the students copy, and I limit = them to one copy only. Usually they copy info from a reference book = which can't be checked out of the library.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have a student use copy machine that was purchased with capital = projects money. We pay a very steep yearly service contract, $472.00, twice a = year. Everytime the machine breaks someone is here within a day to fix it. = The contract covers everything! We do charge the students 10 cents a copy. = The copy machine is a Savin 9013Z. It enlarges and reduces and there is a = coin op on it. It does not make change! You might want one that does. = Also, how do I pay for that service contract? I sell candy in the media = center! When the federal gov't outlaws junk food sales in schools I am going to = be up a creek! Don't know how I will pay for the service contract. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I have a copy machine in the LMC. I believe it is contracted. Provision of the machine is provided by the central office. I charge $.10 per page to copy.=20 Students must request that copies be made at the circulation desk. The machine is not coin operated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- High School of 1800 Previous a local company provided copy machines as a service. They changed ownership to being part of a national company so dropped = the service. After much negotiation etc. the district brought a copier for each = library. At each school we had to buy a coin operation if we wanted one and a = service agreement. Our student council came through on these items. The copy machine is a student convenience definitely. We charge 10c a copy. Not sure if the collection totally covers the service agreement but that was our hope. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have a machine that is contracted, They supply everything and get all = the profits and I receive 300 free copies per month via a "key". The cost to students is .10/ copy. It has worked out quite well but the machine is getting "old" hence service is more often, their cost. I have asked for = a newer machine=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I have a small copier in the library. We have 400 students and so far this school year we have made 4400 = copies. That includes of course, copies made by teachers when the big copier is = down and by me. We purchased it outright and have a service contract on it.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- When our old one died (free copying) the business manager bought a new one from Ikon Office Solutions (or the like). There is a contract, but I'm not in charge of it so don't know much. He also bought a separate product that would take prepaid copy cards which the students now have to buy in the bookstore. There's a lot less copying now.... and I don't have to think about it much. Let me know if you want any more info=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have a Minolta Dialta 250 which sorts, does back-to-back, zooms. = Students have free copying privileges, I presume as part of their = tuition benefit. We contract, and our provider is excellent about = prompt service. I don't know the terms of the contract, but they have = the entire campus (Jk - 12).=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have a copy machine that the school pays for. I charge students 10 = cents a=20 copy=20 unless it is from a book or a magazine. This is my fourth year and the=20 whining about=20 paying is finally letting up. I sometimes think that charging is not = worth=20 the hassle of=20 debating but when I reflect on the socioeconomic class of this school = (high),=20 I harden my=20 heart! I do let them run IOU's, they can't receive their grade card = unless=20 they are paid up.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We do have a copy machine for student use. We do own it. It was = purchased I think on a 3 year plan, but it was done before I got here. = We keep a maintenance contact on the machine which runs about $550 every = 3 yrs or 25,000 copies. Any problems I have with it - all labor, parts, = & travel are covered. I also get 4 toners with each contact. Now it is = an older copier - no dulexer or anything, but is the most dependable = machine in the building! In fact I have never gone 3 years to renew the = contract because we have had several times where the 4 other = copier/printers have been down and they've had to use mine for all = copying in the building. It has a coin machine ($.10/copy). I do let students write IOUs. I = have a "Copier expense" material and then can add an IOU to the students = fine screen.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- When I came here 4 years ago we had a coin machine on a contract. It was broken down more than it was working,and it took 2-3 weeks to get a = service person to come, so I told them to take it back. I phoned all over and finally found one business machine place that placed a brand new machine = in here. This is not coin op... We have to collect the money. Once a month = the owner calls and gets the counter number from us and they send us a bill. = We don't make anything on but we don't spend anything except paper, which = our principal doesn't mind supplying. It works well and we think it's an important resource to have for kids. $.10/copy. Usage is about 350 = copies a month. We have a student body of 2500. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Yes, we do. I consider it necessary to avoid the cutting of pictures = from encyclopedias and other reference materials. We contract for the = machine from a local company for about $500.00 per year, which includes = service and toner. Since, from their perspective, we are a low user, we = were able to rent one of their reconditionned machines. I used to pay = for it with various book fees, but lately my district is asking to = receive these funds. My colleagues and I negotiated permission to keep = our own library overdue fine money, and I use that fund to pay for the = machine. It is coin activated with key override. I raised the price per = copy to ten cents from a nickel to help close the gap between cost and = income. We keep a supply of dimes on hand to make change for kids, and = we keep strict accounting of the funds. It works out very well, but you = would need local sevice support -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have a copy machine purchased by the administration. The machine = also has a coin op (which costs as much as the copy machine). Because it has = a coin op we aren't concerned with speed of the machine. We make copies = for the teachers, overheads, and also for students. We charge ten cents a = copy. In the past we have generated enough money to pay for support costs of = the copy machine and Follett software. Previously we contracted, but = because we don't generate enough money to pay the bill during the summer, we were always behind in our payments--not good. Also, we bill the teacher's department rather then expecting them to have cash. I can't imagine = having a high school library without a copy machine=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We do have a copy machine. I can't give you any information about its purchase or contract, but I can tell you that we used to charge 10=A2 a copy, but we no longer charge. It was a huge hassle, and since we don't charge for computer printing, it didn't make sense to me to charge for photocopies. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have two photocopiers. We contract for it. THe money is in the = library budget for this machine. Students pay for copies they make. If = a class is on the library doing reserach, we will turn the machine on = for free during that class period. THey have to pay at all other times. = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have two photocopiers. We contract for it. THe money is in the = library budget for this machine. Students pay for copies they make. If = a class is on the library doing reserach, we will turn the machine on = for free during that class period. THey have to pay at all other times. = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We have a leased copier (Savin) that our district provides, so I don't = know what sort of "deal" they got except they beat Xerox. We don't = charge and there's no "coin-op" or card-system attachment - just push = the green button. We do charge for personal copies - 5 cents/copy. = Before the had the copier, we had problems with pages torn from $175 = reference books, magazines, yearbooks (which are irreplaceable, as you = know), etc. Since then - only the occasional pictures from the off-road = and hot-rod magazines (and the magazines themselves, but that's another = issue - no pun intended.). So, in that respect, the copier does pay for = itself. Plus it gets heavy use from teachers when the office copier = breaks down (which doesn't happen very often - NOT!)=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- We do have a copy machine in the library. It was donated and the student government supports the maintenance. I have to monitor it a bit to prevent students from making hundreds of copies. Usually, they come in for 1-5 copies. Sometimes I find it a hassle; like when they copy a couple of pages from a book instead of checking it out. Let me know if you need more info. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Part II will come next. 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