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Many of our school libraries are entrenched in the Accelerated Reader or Reading Counts (etc.) computerized testing programs. We've had scores of discussions on LM_NET on the merits and downsides of such programs, so that is not the point of my post. Rather, that the posting of the Alpha-KidZ initiative to become AR books (Subject: [LM_NET] Alpha-kidZ books and Accelerated Reader -Red flag From: Ginny Koeppen Wed, 6 Feb 2008) has coincided with an event at my own school which has given me pause to think. One complaint we've had from teachers (we're using RC) is that on the easiest books (like Rookie Readers) the tests are sometimes more difficult (or more wordy) to read than the books. If you're familiar with these books, there's really not much to read in many of them. In fact, I'm sure the kids spend more time at the computer (taking the test) than reading the book! At that point, are we really testing the student's ability to read the book, or to read the test? It's very discouraging to have a student fail a test and then realize he failed reading the test, not the book! Secondly, the computer tech has offered to write tests for books we have that don't have tests. She created a test for Dr. Seuss's ABC book. Needless to say (if you've read the book) this was a great challenge. She read the test to me and later in the library I found several copies of that title to add the labels and color code dots to, but something wasn't "quite right" when I read the book. This book tested out at the 3rd level (approx. third grade reading). I thought about that for a moment. Kids who are truly at a third grade level should be reading at least short chapter books. Now, this book does have some challenging words, but seriously, when are students ever going to come across those silly Dr. Seuss words in real life reading? The more I thought about it, the more I realized this was not a book that should have a test. Was there really any plot to this book? A solid story line? What was the point of asking a child if the goofy "whatsit?" creature in the rhyme was an alligator, an albatross, or an angry anteater (etc.)? Unless the student had the book in hand, how would they remember? More importantly, why would it matter? Are we just testing to see if they (1) read (and remembered) silly details; or if they (2) recalled important facts, characters, incidents or comprehended what was happening in the story? Hopefully it is the second reason. I talked to the computer tech and explained the situation, and she agreed with me - no testing for that book. We'll evaluate each of the books that we don't have a test for before creating a test. Which brings me to the point about the Alpha-KidZ books Ginny mentioned: I haven't seen these books, but most alphabet books feature the letters in sequence and don't really have a "plot" per se, or much in the way of text. It's still possible of course, to create a test, and some alphabet books may be good (or at least adequate) candidates but many ABC books are geared to children who are not yet readers and the book are meant to be read TO them by an older reader. Ditto for many picture books - some of my picture books in the "E" (for "Everybody" - they sure aren't all "Easy!") section have 3rd grade level reading words or higher even though by third grade most students are reading easy chapter books like Magic Tree House, etc. Those of us who recall the early days of the computer testing also recall the recognition that AR managed to produce tests for lots of books (and of course, also supplied those books!) even if they weren't titles that had good reviews. But that didn't matter because many libraries already had some of those titles and wanted the tests; in fact, wanted tests for ALL books on their shelves. Electronic Book Shelf (which was eventually bought out by Scholastic and became RC) did NOT offer tests for every book - the books were actually librarian-selected for quality. I can't say if that policy continued after Scholastic's acquisition or not, but it is still not possible to get RC tests for (nearly) all books while the opposite is true for AR. Personally, I don't buy a book based on whether the book has a test or not - I buy based on reviews and collection development policy, and our site library plan. However, when I see a "gap" in our RC coverage, I will compile a list of titles by the needed reading level, then carefully check each review (with a tool like Titlewave) to be sure the book is a quality publication in its own right, regardless of RC. I realize of course, that not all sites have this same policy, and often it is not the librarian's policy to buy only AR or RC titles, but one enforced by an administrator or site committee. Anyway, I appreciate Ginny's original posting of the situation, and I hope all of us will actually THINK about whether or not it is a good policy to have tests for EVERY book, or to discard or avoid purchasing books when they don't have a test. Maybe there's a good reason there's no test! Joanne Ladewig (A.K.A. "Library Lady") Library Media Tech Lawrence Elementary, GGUSD Garden Grove, California shatz@verizon.net Comments are my own and may not represent the views of GGUSD -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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