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I was very interested in the discussion of the Curriculum field by Paula
and others.  After reading the posts, I added the field to Destiny
through the MARC record-- it is searchable.  Now if I only had the time
to manually catalog 10,000 books :)  I agree that it would be very
helpful if 658 was included in vendor processing.

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Topics in this special issue:

  1. TARGET: Curriculum Enhanced MARC
  2. FW: One more FB comment
  3. One more FB Comment (2)

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Date:    Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:29:20 -0700
From:    Paula Yohe <paula_yohe@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: TARGET: Curriculum Enhanced MARC

I have some but have not been able to fully utilize the 658 tag because
Des=
tiny does not display all of the sub-fields.
You may want to find out what autmation companies are supporting this --
I have sent this to Follett --
=A0
Ohio is supposed to have alot of records with the 658 tag utilized.
=A0
Paula
=A0
=A0


Paula Yohe
Director Of Technology/Library Media Center
Dillon School District Two
405 West Washington Street
Dillon, SC 29536
Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214
paula_yohe@yahoo.com

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Shonda Brisco <sbrisco@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Shonda Brisco <sbrisco@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: [LM_NET] TARGET: Curriculum Enhanced MARC
To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:51 PM

I would like to show some examples of Curriculum Enhanced MARC records
to m=
y
cataloging class so that they will better understand how these MARC
fields
can enhance library records which can help users locate specific types
of
information.  Specifically, I was interested in examples of the 520
field
(reviews or summaries), 521 field (Audience / grade level), and 658
field
(Curriculum objectives-- state or national will work).

If you have enhanced MARC records containing information within these
field=
s
in your online catalog AND if it is accessible so that we might be able
to
search for information found in these fields, I would appreciate any
offer
to allow us to just visit your online catalog to see how it might work.
Some of the students in my class are not working in a library at this
time
and our university catalog does not include some of these fields, so we
are
limited in what we can search.  I'd like for the students to see how
adding
this content can produce different results --- often better results ---
than searching by keyword alone might.

Thanks for helping!

~Shonda

--=20
Shonda Brisco
Assistant Professor / Curriculum Materials Librarian
Mary L. Williams Curriculum Materials Library
001 Willard Hall
Oklahoma State University
Stillwater, OK 74078
http://www.library.okstate.edu/cml/index.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://www.osu-cml.wikispaces.com
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Date:    Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:31:04 -0700
From:    Paula Yohe <paula_yohe@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: FW: One more FB comment

we have some reviews --=20
you can check out the various school catalogs
at our website
=A0
http://www.dillon2.k12.sc.us/students/default.asp
=A0
click on the destiny catalog link


Paula Yohe
Director Of Technology/Library Media Center
Dillon School District Two
405 West Washington Street
Dillon, SC 29536
Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214
paula_yohe@yahoo.com

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, DeFrank, Karen <kdefrank@GLASSBOROSCHOOLS.US>
wrote:

From: DeFrank, Karen <kdefrank@GLASSBOROSCHOOLS.US>
Subject: [LM_NET] FW: One more FB comment
To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:45 AM

Is anyone out there using Destiny as Jean mentions in her post from
yesterd=
ay?
I would love to see what you have done.=20

Karen DeFrank, LMS
Bullock school
Glassboro NJ 08028

kdefrank@glassboroschools.us

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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [LM_NET] One more FB comment

I've been mulling it all around myself and have come to the conclusion
that
Destiny (the Follett program) will do all those things that people are
sayi=
ng
are the reasons they are using the social networking sites to promote
their
library.

1.  You can set Destiny to open to a library homepage where you could
post =
all
sorts of links to authors, book lists and other things.  Or, you can set
it=
 to
open right in the search window.

2.  You can turn on the calendar feature so the patrons can see up
coming
events.

3.  Book chats.  Destiny has a book reivew feature that if you sell it
as a
book chat, you can get discussions of books going.  It is totally
moderated=
!=20
And now editable.

4.  Patrons can recommend books to each other.  Just think of the
sharing t=
his
could generate.  We do need to have this tweaked.  Right now, the
comments =
are
not previewed by the T-L.  Either we need to be able to preview the
comment=
s, or
have the ability to turn it off.  I'm leaning towards just turning off
the
comments box.  Let them just see a title and who recommended.

5.  It is right there, you do not have to maintain another page and you
can
have your students of all ages viewing your page, posting and using
these
features.  When a student tells you about something, you can plop right
dow=
n and
add or delete.  No waiting to go home and work where the school filter
isn'=
t
blocking you from doing your work of promoting your library.

6.  And the best!  It is totally out in the open, EVERYBODY can view the
bo=
ok
discussions.  Nothing can ever be said about inappropriate contacts.
(Okay=
, see
number 4.)

Jean

R. Jean Gustafson
Teacher-Librarian
Selah Jr. High
Selah, WA 98942
jeangustafson@selah.k12.wa.us
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Date:    Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:42:58 -0700
From:    Nancy Willard <nwillard@CSRIU.ORG>
Subject: Re: One more FB Comment

Gail said
 
I think =
> we would all be wise to take a wait and see attitude because I think
it's j=
> ust a matter of time before some educator will be charged with an
offense (=
> guilty or not) through a Facebook type of contact.

This is already happening. The school attorneys have been telling me
that
they are having increasing problems with this. It just has not hit the
news
in a major way. Usually, they just fire the teacher and hope nothing
hits
the media. 

One member of this list communicated privately to me telling me of a
young
teacher in her district who simply got headed in the wrong direction
with a
student - fortunately stopped before any actual physical involvement.
But he
is not teaching in the district any more.

The problem is not older more established teachers who have been around
the
block more than a few times - and who are unlikely to be ones who
students
are going to flirt with (no offense intended - I would put myself into
that
category also ;-)). The problem is setting an environment where this is
perceived to be acceptable for all teachers.

The younger teachers who are the ones far more likely to get into
trouble.
They are more likely to be actively socializing on FB, have adult
friends
who are also really into socializing, and simply have not yet been in
the
position to recognize and know how to deal with situations when students
have formed a crush - and they are also the ones who are more likely to
have
students interested in them for relationship purposes.

These are the young teachers who are going to get into trouble. I am not
talking about the true predator type. I am talking about young teachers
who
are simply going to get into a trap and not recognize that they have
until
things have gotten into a place where their jobs and credibility have
been
very damaged. And were it not for FB communications I do not think this
harm
would occur. 

I have spent a long time researching and thinking about how use of
technologies can interfere with ethical decision-making. This is ever
since
when I was an attorney in the 80's (told you I was old) and I was giving
lectures to teachers and librarians on copyright laws and those 5 inch
floppies. I would have teachers/librarians say things: But nobody ever
gets
caught. The software is too expensive. The companies are making big
bucks,
and we schools have nothing. I'm doing it for the kids. So I have spent
a
long time reflecting on online decision-making.

Interacting with students online will lead some younger teachers - who
would
not otherwise engage in inappropriate behavior with students - to do so.
I
guarantee you this is happening and will happen. Which is why I strongly
believe that this is a practice that should be prohibited.

AND I would equally as strongly argue that it is ESSENTIAL that schools
establish web 2.0 environments that are for students and teachers to
interact in an educational - non-social - environment. We can't prepare
students for their future in classrooms designed to serve our past!

Nancy
-- 
Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D.
Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use
http://csriu.org
http://cyberbully.org
http://cyber-safe-kids.com
http://csriu.wordpress.com
nwillard@csriu.org

Cyberbullying and Cyberthreats: Responding to the Challenge of Online
Social
Aggression, Threats, and Distress (Research Press)

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the
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Date:    Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:50:51 -0500
From:    Gail Brewster <gbrewste@MOLINESCHOOLS.ORG>
Subject: Re: One more FB Comment

Of course we will all be pegged as old fashioned, but this is exactly
wh=
at I meant when I said "guilty or not". Read the comment from Paula
Yohe=
 too. A totally innocent comment on FB can and will be taken the wrong
w=
ay by a parent and all of a sudden some poor teacher will be raked over
=
the coals by her school administrators and the legal authorities. Yes,
w=
e need to keep up with the digital community but I don't know how easy
t=
his will be with social networking sites. I think I would rather do all
=
the other Web 2.0 things and let someone else fight the FB battle.

Gail Brewster
Media Specialist
Moline High School
Moline, IL   61265
gbrewste@molineschools.org
Phone (309) 743-8901
Fax (309) 757-3484
http://mhsav.wikispaces.com/
  =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =20

From: Nancy Willard [mailto:nwillard@CSRIU.ORG]
To: LM=5FNET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:42:58 -0500
Subject: Re: One more FB Comment

Gail said
  =20
  I think =3D
  > we would all be wise to take a wait and see attitude because I
think=
 it's j=3D
  > ust a matter of time before some educator will be charged with an
of=
fense (=3D
  > guilty or not) through a Facebook type of contact.
 =20
  This is already happening. The school attorneys have been telling me
t=
hat
  they are having increasing problems with this. It just has not hit
the=
 news
  in a major way. Usually, they just fire the teacher and hope nothing
h=
its
  the media.=20
 =20
  One member of this list communicated privately to me telling me of a
y=
oung
  teacher in her district who simply got headed in the wrong direction
w=
ith a
  student - fortunately stopped before any actual physical involvement.
=
But he
  is not teaching in the district any more.
 =20
  The problem is not older more established teachers who have been
aroun=
d the
  block more than a few times - and who are unlikely to be ones who
stud=
ents
  are going to flirt with (no offense intended - I would put myself
into=
 that
  category also ;-)). The problem is setting an environment where this
i=
s
  perceived to be acceptable for all teachers.
 =20
  The younger teachers who are the ones far more likely to get into
trou=
ble.
  They are more likely to be actively socializing on FB, have adult
frie=
nds
  who are also really into socializing, and simply have not yet been in
=
the
  position to recognize and know how to deal with situations when
studen=
ts
  have formed a crush - and they are also the ones who are more likely
t=
o have
  students interested in them for relationship purposes.
 =20
  These are the young teachers who are going to get into trouble. I am
n=
ot
  talking about the true predator type. I am talking about young
teacher=
s who
  are simply going to get into a trap and not recognize that they have
u=
ntil
  things have gotten into a place where their jobs and credibility have
=
been
  very damaged. And were it not for FB communications I do not think
thi=
s harm
  would occur.=20
 =20
  I have spent a long time researching and thinking about how use of
  technologies can interfere with ethical decision-making. This is ever
=
since
  when I was an attorney in the 80's (told you I was old) and I was
givi=
ng
  lectures to teachers and librarians on copyright laws and those 5 inch
  floppies. I would have teachers/librarians say things: But nobody
ever=
 gets
  caught. The software is too expensive. The companies are making big
bu=
cks,
  and we schools have nothing. I'm doing it for the kids. So I have
spen=
t a
  long time reflecting on online decision-making.
 =20
  Interacting with students online will lead some younger teachers -
who=
 would
  not otherwise engage in inappropriate behavior with students - to do
s=
o. I
  guarantee you this is happening and will happen. Which is why I
strong=
ly
  believe that this is a practice that should be prohibited.
 =20
  AND I would equally as strongly argue that it is ESSENTIAL that
school=
s
  establish web 2.0 environments that are for students and teachers to
  interact in an educational - non-social - environment. We can't
prepar=
e
  students for their future in classrooms designed to serve our past!
 =20
  Nancy
  --=20
  Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D.
  Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use
  http://csriu.org
  http://cyberbully.org
  http://cyber-safe-kids.com
  http://csriu.wordpress.com
  nwillard@csriu.org
 =20
  Cyberbullying and Cyberthreats: Responding to the Challenge of Online
=
Social
  Aggression, Threats, and Distress (Research Press)
 =20
  Cyber-Safe Kids, Cyber-Savvy Teens: Helping Young People Learn to Use
=
the
  Internet Safely and Responsibly (Jossey-Bass)
 =20
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