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Thank you to all who responded to my request for info about before and after-school library hours. I learn so much from you all and as a newbie, this was very helpful: Our teacher contract has the staff in at 7:05 and classes starting at 7:47, that is pretty much the only time that I am open outside of school hours. One of the building subs is assigned to me 3 days a week before school so I can make staff meetings and collaboration time. The first two years that I was here I came in half an hour early and opened the library because that was what the librarian before me had done. Two years ago the librarian from the other school and I wrote a proposal for a sixth assignment where we would have taken an extra period's worth of time to keep the library open either earlier or later and it was declined. So now I open and close according to the contracted work day. (Not that I ever leave the building anywhere near the contracted time!) ________________________________________________________________________________ Staggering works for my colleague and I as well. We do it by week -- she's early for two weeks, and then I'm early for two weeks. We tried dividing it 1st-15th of the month, and then 15th-to the end, but the weekly trades seem to work better. Yes we are open an hour before school (teacher start work an hour before students' classes start so we are open and anyone who is here can come in...so we don't have to do any duties.) Our regular day ends 20 minutes after school ends so we are open that long after school 3 days a week. But we are open an hour later two days a week. We have two media specialists and we each take a day to stay an hour longer. Our principal says we can take that hour off whenever we want (we have to cover for each other though...no sub). Last week she had a doctor's appointment and didn't come in until 12:30 and I'm taking all of next Monday off to babysit my grandchildren while my son and daughter-in-law go out of town. It works for us. Sometimes they have meetings in here right after school and the kids have to wait, but they are used to it. It's usually only 15 or 20 minutes. Once in awhile (last night actually) someone will call a student meeting in here, but I let other kids come in and use the LMC while that is going on. I open at 7AM and school starts at 7:30. This is my regular start time. I leave at 2:30 and my assistant stays until 2:45. She starts later and ends later. School is out at 1:50, so we have about an hour after school. ญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญ____________________________________________________________________________________ 95% of our students are brought in by busses. Since there is no early or late bus, there is no point in our having before or after school hours. Our middle school runs a late bus, and does allow students to work in the LC after hours until the late bus. **My hours are 7:05-3:00pm (school day for kids is 7:25-2:05) -- I do it basically gratis and because it takes me that long before and after school to "do my thing" Before school it's just me in here, but after school we have and outside program (Communities in Schools Coalition that runs a Homework Hub program from 2:05-4:30. I stick around until 3pm most days to help students with books and database questions, but don't feel bad if I need to leave early because the kids still have access. Because I do this, I'm never ever bugged about supervising sporting events or dances! Fair trade in my mind! I am the librarian at a large 10-12 high school. As of right now, I have 2 full time aides. We vary our time schedules so the library is open from 7:00am to 4:00pm. Our school hours are 7:30 - 3:00. ญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญญMost days, we are here 30 minutes before and 30 minutes after. There are times during the Spring semester (Jan-Feb) that we do "late night library" for research. We open at 7:15 and don't close until 8. This gives kids extra time and more one on one assistance with research papers. Regular days, we just get everything open and help kids with questions on typing or other assignments, circulate books, etc. All teachers are required to be here by 7:45, but I'm here between 7:15 and 7:30. School doesn't start until 8:30, with the breakfast line open at 8:00. I generally have quite a crew in here between the time I open the door and the bell rings for first period. I've noticed that my numbers vary with what is served for breakfast. Since the cafeteria is right across the hall from me, kids will often look in to see what's for breakfast, and then either get in line or come in here. My activity is down on Fridays, because the breakfast that day is either homemade cinnamon rolls or homemade long johns. After school is another story. We are officially supposed to stay until 3:20, and I've posted that I'm here until 3:30. I rarely have anyone here after school, so most days I'm out of here at 3:20 like everyone else. ____________________________________________________________________________________ my library is open one hour before school and one hour after school, because I want it to be. I staff it and I do not ask for,or expect, extra pay. I am paid well enough and I have no other, more "disgusting "duties to perform, like bus or cafeteria duty.i get to stay inside, near a chair and it is much quieter. Not a bad deal. I am the only staff person in our school library. I arrive ฝ hour before the school day starts and stay 1 hour after the last bell. There is a tutoring program run by non-staff members that takes place 4 days a week after school; even though all the tutors have supposedly been told that my desk is off-limits, I still find things broken/moved/defaced every week. Oftentimes kids are even using my computer AT MY DESK while Im not here! I am not pleased with the situation, and the principal keeps saying that we need to be open more hours after school to accommodate our students who dont have computer access at home. Im very frustrated with the fact that no one has talked about additional library staffing if these extended hours start happening. Sorry to vent at you but this is the situation Im dealing with. I hope that if this is happening at your school that you have administrative support to staff the library when it is being used after school hours. We are a HS library and are open 1 hour before school begins (many of the buses arrive during this time) and 1-1/4 hours after school. In the morning we have the Head Librarian and the assistant here. After school it's the Library assistant her alone. Our students really rely on this time and for the most part work diligently on our computers and get one-on-one help. We have had some security issues with the after school part because most of the building staff has left. I would recommend 2 people here after school if anyone would listen. I thik it's a great service to offer the students and gives them a place to do homework, work on projects or get help outside of the school day. There are definitely peaks and valleys. The state of Missouri requires the library to be open 30 minutes prior to the start of school and 30 minutes after the end of school. Different districts may extend hours, extra pay, etc. My district does not pay us to open earlier or later than the 30 minutes. If students come to me and ask if I can stay later, I usually do unless I have a meeting to go to. We have two librarians on staff...one of us opens the library at 7:00 am each morning (teacher workday starts at 7:35) in order for students and teachers to have access to the library before school. The teacher school day ends at 3:00, but the other librarian stays until 3:30 for teacher and student access. The librarian that comes in at 7:00 leaves at 2:00. With the 30 minutes before school one day and the 30 minutes after school the next day that gives us the hour to leave early. If there is a reason that we cannot leave early, etc, then we build comp time that can be used if we need to leave school during the day for some reason. We open our high school library 40 minutes before school and close 40 minutes after the school day. My assistant's work day covers all the after school time, and I use part of my TRI time to open the library 10 minutes before the teachers' day is supposed to start. If you are looking at keeping the library open for longer periods of time after school, then you should negotiate a supplemental contract to cover the long hours beyond your work day. Several LM_Net librarians have said in the past that this is how their school districts handle extended library hours. Yes--our school library is open after school but not before since we use the library for staff meetings almost every morning. According to our handbook the staff is required to be on campus from 7:00-3:30 every day. Classes start at 7:30 and let out at 2:40 so our administration just assumes that most days we will stay on campus after school though if we have work caught up, no meetings, and just want to get out of here no one stops us. I usually have the library open every day until 4 if I have students in here, if no one shows up by 3 I will quite often shut it down and just leave so it balances out. I usually have kids here about 3 afternoons a week on the average -- quite often if there is some kind of athletic practice I will have the siblings waiting for Mom and Dad to come pick them up together, and also there are always those who have parents who just don't realize how late it really is and I would prefer to have them in the library with me as opposed to being out on the playground trying to break an arm (where it is unsupervised after school). I know the librarian before me had mothers that would come in from 2:30-4:00 since she didn't like staying after school but I have never felt the need to do that. Our high school library is open at 7am. First period starts at 7:30. School ends at 2:30 and the library is open until 3. Since the staff is required to be at school from 7am until 3pm the librarians are in the library then. Maria, We have two certified MLS librarians in our library - no clerks - we're it. We operate in a high school on a 7 period day + zero period. What can I say, it is crazy! That makes 8 periods. School starts with 0 period at 7:45 - it ends at the end of 7th period at 3:45. We open for zero period - which is one hour before most of the school arrives (the day officially starts at 8:45). Our library closes one hour after school is out. We alternate coming in early and late - one day working 7:45-3:45, the next day 8:45-4:45. We both come in early on Fridays, working 7:45-3:45 because we also are in charge of the International Baccalaureate CAS program. We do CAS on Fridays plus the library. Our middle school library is open around 7:10 (school officially starts at 7:40) and we have about 75 + kids in the library. We kick them out at 7:35. The school allows students to come in whenever they arrive so there are many there. We stay open until 3:30. The staffing is one librarian (me) and a secretary. I am allowed to leave at 3:00-secretary must stay until 3:30 but I never leave her unless I have a meeting or important appointment. Our teachers are required to be at school 20 minutes before school and 25 minutes after. As a teacher I am here during that time and my duty station is in the library. My assistant and I have offered to work split shifts - she coming in earlier and leaving earlier and me coming in later and leaving later, but our principal has not responded to that. In Arkansas any addition time required has to be paid for at contract rate. Most of our high school kids don't hang around campus before and after school, but do come in during their lunch period frequently. I am open only the half-hour before school starts and 1/2 hr after school ends. There was no funding for extended schedule. Our high school, however, had extende hours until they eliminated the full-time secretary. The librarian opened 1 hour before school started in the morning and left with the students in the afternoon. The secretary came in 1/2 hour later and kept the library open for 1 hour after school. It was great for the librarian as few kids took advantage of the early open time and those that did usually knew what they were looking for. So, she was able to get some work done before the teachers started showing up to demand her time. The down side was she was expected to be at staff meetings that were held after school. Our high school library is open at 6:45 a.m. and closes at 3:15 (but if I am here, I keep it open until I actually leave...which can be as late as 6.) It is open from 6:45-7:15 staffed by my library parapro. I get here at 7:15. This parapro is able to help the students with most things and anyway, I am there within the half hour. Then, 3 days a week, it is open in the evenings, staffed by another parapro. It is open Tuesday, Wed., Thursday from 6-8:30 p.m. The parapro who mans the library is there mainly to supervise...not help. If she retires, I will push for a parapro who can actually help the students, too. Wh have a secretary hired from 8-4, and the media center is open at 8:00 for homework only, 8:30 for the general public (all kids, no email, limited games, behavior counts...), and classes start at 9:00. She leaves at 4:00, so that is when the dorors shut, unless the Media Specialist is there longer. We only have one secretary and one licensed teacher assigned there. Budget cuts. We have about 1000 kids in the building. I am open for 30 minutes before school and 30 minutes after school. Just me, as it's always just me:) I usually see about 40-60 students in the morning, doing homework or checking out books. After school it's usually a quick dash in to grab a book, and I see perhaps 30 kids. It's well worth it--kids come back to visit from middle school, and the first thing they tell me is how much they miss that free time in the library. I open at 7:20 and school begins at 7:45 and we are open until 3:30 --last bell is 3;15. So kids have 25 minutes before and 15 minutes after school. Basically I am here a half hour early than is paid, but when I take a one hour lunch, there is no way they can frown...I work a half hour free every day. I have a part-time aide. In h.s. libraries, they have 2 full-time librarians and several aides and are open extended hours. 7:30-5:00 usually. one librarian works the early hours 7:30-3:00 and one works 9:30 - 5:00. sometimes they switch every nine weeks to make it fair, but some are early risers and some late, so they work it out amongst themselves. I get here about 6:15am to run computer backups, etc. I'm officially open from 7am to 4pm. (It's just me, I have no assistant.) I's a kind of long day, but the kids are great.- Maria Doss Orcas Island School Librarian Orcas Island, WA mariaedoss@msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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