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The title/job description discussion has moved me to post my loonie's worth. (loonie = $1CdnCoin) I reserve comment on poop deck discussion. On Job Titling: Certainly the label that we have, carries some aura, but the image that persists is consistent and has a long shelf life. That image does not include modern technology skills required of those teacher librarians who venture into the new information technologies. I am not inclined to opt for a techno-centric title, nor a re-labelling of any kind. For my money, the title teacher librarian used in Canada and Australia and a few US Districts, reflects the roots of our profession in teaching and learning. Just because I have learned how to Network 6 CDROMS on an Infoserver on an Digital Alpha distributed network, learned how to use Netscape and other WWW utilities, maintain a MultiLis Distributed Network Catalogue node, and so on, is not cause to inject techno-babble into my title. I am in the learning and teaching business. I learn sometimes and I teach sometimes. SIDEBAR--> Just for fun, my business card identifies me as, "Navigator." On Job Description: This is where the action is, and I think things are a mess. In a rapidly evolving enterprise like school libraries, job descriptions are a furtive stab at institutional jello. Many of us have generic (one size fits all) position descriptions which amount to pious prose. Others have specific pd's that require updating hourly. For my loonie's worth a job description is not worth dithering over. Write it and get on with life. BUT!: What has been the gold in this discussion is the woof and warp about what we are REALLY doing out there. Certainly the angst comes through, but behind it is the substance of what is evolving in our profession. I hope Peter and Mike are archiving this discussion in ERICIR because I have deleted all postings! (after reading most, of course) What is impressive about LMNET and this thread in particular, is the diversity and depth of expertise that is evident. 2000 or so lurkers benefit from our discussions I am sure. School Libraries in the ninetys have hit warp speed when in comes to innovation and that makes this an interesting place to practice learning and teaching. I have a fear for some collegues though. LMNET is a self selecting techo aware population, which is not representative of the school library community. There is the other 90% or more of our colleagues who are not engaged in the new information technologies locally or globally. The inclination of the technology learning curve varies, but it always is up. There is an incessant pressure to learn new skills and make opportunities happen, that methinks blows by some of our brethren. CANADIAN SPIN --> Buying into the new info technologies may be survival skill north of the 49th parallel. Massive budget reformation (slash and burn) initiatives have hit several Canadian school districts. Building level credibility is becoming an exchangeable commodity and techno-skills carry a lot of sway in staffing decisions. The general image of teacher librarians does not carry a technology competence or leadership aura, so that has to be developed locally. Neither a title nor position description dithering will do much to change that. enuf Bill BHanson@cbe.ab.ca Teacher Librarian Navigator I post, therefore I am.