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I figured it was time to post the results of my question. My original question was: >I've used both IBM-compatibles and Macintosh computers and I have always >preferred the IBMs. Now, hoever, with the advent of the Power PC as well as >the Pentium computers, I'm unsure about which to look at for my next purchase. >I would really appreciate some comparisons which others have made. What are >the advantages of each over the other? Is anyone out in LM_NETland using >either one of these yet? If so, what do you do with it and what do you think >of it? > >Any and all comments are appreciated. > >Thanks, >Ron Bettencourt >Cataloger >B.M.C. Durfee High School >360 Elsbree Street >Fall River, MA 02720 >Internet: rbettencourt@umassd.edu The first response to my question was a verbal response from a colleague. He said that the Pentium chip release 1 has bugs that can cause severe problems. He suggested waiting for release 2 due out in August. He also said that the Power PC was not as DOS-compatible as it is described; it will not run all DOS software and what it does run, it runs slower - at 286 level. He also said he had heard that the particular chip being used for the purpose of running DOS applications was being discontinued because of problems. He added that whatever I decided to do, make sure to get multimedia capability with a CD-ROM drive, SVGA, nd 16-bit sound. He also mentioned the option of buying a Pentium-ready 486 now and purchasing the new release of the Pentium chip when it becomes available. 'Nuff said. LM_NET repsones follow: ===================================================== Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 12:11:48 -0500 From: jperkins@po-1.star.k12.ia.us (J. Perkins) Subject: RE: Pentium vs. Power PC I'm typing this on one of the new Power Mac (6100/60). It is a much faster machine than any of the Macs I've used before. I expected a few "bugs" and have had a couple of problems: it won't retain an enlarged memory allocation for HyperCard; it also liked to lockup with the videodisc player I had plugged into it--this may have been a problem with my stack and not the Mac. I've used Windows machines for quite a while--gradually I've gravitated toward the Mac side. I find it easier to work in the Mac's System Folder rather thatn editing autoexec.bat and config.sys files. for what it's worth... J. Perkins, Media Specialist Media Center jperkins@po-1.star.k12.ia.us Urbandale Middle School 515-254-2203 Urbandale, IA 50035 "For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the quality of life, please press 3." -Alice Kahn ===================================================== Date: Tue May 31 11:24:41 1994 From: Patti Johnson <johnson@micronet.wcu.edu> Subject: RE Pentium vs powerpc Hi there! I'm the proud mommy of a baby (15 days old) Power PC - 6100/60 without a CD drive. Actually, I've had the machine since Fri of last week so I'm not yet that well versed on it. I can give initial impressions, tho. I like it. And I think I'll get one for my family once I'm rich ;-) Seriously, with it, I ordered ClarisWorks, Filemaker Pro and SoftWindows. I don't think it'll run windows without the SoftWindows package from Insignia. However, with the package, I've got (pre-installed, BTW), DOS 6.21 and Windows 3.1. It's full DOS & Windows - in their splendor. But it's not setup the way I thought it would be - both op systems sharing the entire drive. Rather, DOS (via Insignia's SoftWindows) uses a "file" under the Mac OS as the C: drive. I don't know if I can change the size of that drive; but in any case - it's not total file sharing. If I want to transfer files from one to the other it's easy - but not automatic. Transfer from DOS - Mac means copying file(s) to E: drive. Transfer from Mac to DOS (which I haven't tried yet) means dragging the file icon into the SoftWindows folder.... easy. The machine isn't as fast as I'd like when running Windows either. My benchmark? The speed at which I can drag card icons in the Windows Solitaire game - not much of a benchmark but the only one I have. I suppose when you boil it all down - the Power PC could be much more & probably will become more. But right now, I have both worlds at my disposal... not just the one I get with a clone. The clones are working on it but aren't there yet... maybe in a few months/years. I'd say - give one a test run at your local dealer. Hope I didn't muddy the waters too much. Have fun patti johnson johnson@micronet.wcu.edu ============================================= Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 08:50:03 -0500 (EST) From: s_lochhead@mentor.unh.edu Subject: RE: Pentium vs. Power PC Hi, Ron. I use a Power Mac 6100 at home. Wish I could afford one at work! Shelley Shelley Lochhead, Librarian ____/| 603-746-4167 x230 Hopkinton High School \ o.O| S_Lochhead@mentor.unh.edu 297 Park Avenue =(_)= AppleLink: ALOT32 Contoocook, NH 03229 U Mentor: S_Lochhead ===================================================== Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 18:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Rachel Carlson <aixoise@netcom.com> Subject: RE: Pentium vs. Power PC Ron - I went to Apple's promo on the Power PC the Monday after I bought my new computer (on Saturday) - a 486 multimedia pc. My first thought was that perhaps I'd just made a major and costly mistake. However, the more I read and the more I hear, the better I feel about my purchase. What I gather is that this first generation Power PC is verrrry sloooow, and that as yet there is not a lot of software that really functions on it. Pentium, on the other hand, is beginning to have a track record, and those who use it say it's really slick (one of my friends is a journalist who lives by her computer, and that's her take on it). It would be interesting to know what other evidence/opinions you gather. Rachel Carlson Huntington Beach Union H.S. District Huntington Beach, CA aixoise@netcom.com ================================================ Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 07:09:16 -0600 (CDT) From: "Penny L. McAllister" <pmcalli7@ua1ix.ua.edu> Subject: RE: Pentium vs. Power PC Ron--I have an assistant prin. who is "Mr. Macintosh" while I remain in favor of IBM compatibles due to all that is already running on our DOS network. My interest has grown in Power PC but I did read an article in a recent PC World (I think) that for most users, IBM compatibles will serve our needs until they make the Power PC run non-native programs at their regular speeds. Their trial indicated that when programs were re-written in RISC then even a pentium chip couldn't touch the speed. However, when running regular old programs written for DOS, the speeds dropped from 486 capabilities to around 286 speeds. I'm not ready to make the leap of faith, yet. I do have to admit to liking Macintoshes for my own pleasure--they're such elegant machines. Hope this helps! Penny ========================================================== Date: Thu, 02 Jun 1994 01:07:54 -0400 (EDT) From: GretchenH@aol.com Subject: RE: Pentium vs. Power PC I think the power PC is equivalent to a 286 DOS machine. If this is true, it is not worth the cost, when you can get faster, less expensive DOS units . ================================================================== Date: Fri, 03 Jun 1994 16:40:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen M. Lyons" <mstkmlx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu> Subject: RE: Pentium vs. Power PC There is a good article in the June issue of PC Magazine that compares the PowerPC and the Pentium machines. I recently saw a demonstration of the pentium by some folks from Intel; the speed is truly impressive. I was shopping for a new computer myself since I teach programming at the high school level. I saw the PowerPC as well. I'm an old DOS person but I have worked on the MacIntosh Quadra 660AV. The MacIntosh machines are good but I still chose a DOS/Windows machine. I didn't get the pentium because the one that I was looking at had some software problems. I wanted a machine I could set up quickly and work with decent speed. I personally was a bit hesistant with the newest technology - I don't want to be on the phone all the time with software or hardware people. So I eneded up with a Compaq 486DX2. You might want to check out PC World magazine (June issue) as well. That has articles relating to reliability and service. Good luck, Kate Lyons mst@gsusgi2.gsu.edu ================================================================== ================================================================== So, I have some some further investigating to do and then I'll make my final decision. Thank God I don't have to make a decision immediately. Many thanks for all your responses, Ron Bettencourt Cataloger Keeley Library B.M.C. Durfee High School 360 Elsbree Street Fall River, MA 02720 Internet: rbettencourt@umassd.edu