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Here, as promised, are the responses to my query about cd-rom cataloging products, specifically Precision One. The short version is that most folks like it! Thanks to all, Shelley complete replies follow: _______________________________ Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 22:28:25 -0400 (EDT) From: PAUL VENANCIO <PAULVO@ids.net> The Alliance family of CDs does still work for folks who have the Cardmaster program--and not Follett's Circ or Circ/Cat Plus. This still does include many folks. We own a copy of Precision One--purchased after we used the Alliance CD products to try to continue to clean up misses. We did find many matches of old stuff (our purchase pre-dated the Follett Vintage disk) but had some serious reservations about the quality of data. Subject headings are sparse/mixed/inconsistent. Frequently the 082 tag has been stripped. They did this, I am told, to save space on the disk. Finally, one gets spoiled by Alliance's many, many records with annotations (520) which are critical for good Boolean searching. It is another tool to consider--and I am not sorry we purchased it. Quality, however, is only fair. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Rosemary T. Matthews" <rmatthew@norfolk.vak12ed.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 94 10:31:42 EDT We have been using Precision One for three years now and I think it is just great!!! Most of our retrospective conversion was accomplished using it and we have completed 50 schools. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Sharon Murray" <SMURRAY@DOVER.k12.ar.us> Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 09:25:51 CST We used Persision One two years ago to do our retroconversion when we automated with Winnebago. We have a very knowledgeable Winnebago rep, Alan Dillard, who was familiar with this product. He gave us hints about how to use it to best interface with his Winnebago product, so we didn't run into any problems. It was cost effective. I haven't used any other product like it, so I can't compare, but I would recommend it if you have to do your own MARC records. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Sandra L. Parks" <sparks@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 94 9:40:15 EDT I haven't used Brodarts Precision One for 3 years, but when I did, it was the worst product and the worst catalaging I have ever seen. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:51:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Sarah Peckham <speckham@bluejay.creighton.edu> I just converted my high school collection this year with Precision. I decimated the 14,000 books by about 40 % before I began and with Precision I had about 95% hit rate. With one old staaffer typing about 4 hours a day and me working about an hour on problem sources we completed the project in about 3 months. It was fast, easy and Much less painfull than I anticipated. Good luck. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:11:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marianne Haase, Librarian" <HAASE_M@HCCA.OECN.OHIO.GOV> As to your question regarding Precision One/ We have been using it for just over year, at the suggestion of a friend who did her entire retro using it (a Catholic HS). We purchased it to retro our elementaries (lots of old stuff along with the new) and ended up using it for our new books (7-12) as well, plus some books which did not come back full MARC from Winnebago. It has been wonderful -- easy to download, good records overall, and easy to load into Winnebago. I do a lot of checking along the way and always look closely at subjects, class #'s, the main tags and enter lots of 520's --- very seldom any problems. We get the quarterly and would get the monthly if we could, however, usually are ok with the quarterly. It is just the $ that prevent us ... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 18:12:55 -0500 From: Bob Gaines <gaines@tenet.edu> We use Precision One for recon in our public libraries and for current MARC AV records for our system media collection. It's primitive compared to BiblioFile (which is our primary source of records), but it's easy to use and we are satisfied with the hit rate (which would obviously be different from a school's). I like it. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 17:17:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Sandy Scroggs <sandyscr@tenet.edu> I used Precision One about a year ago and disliked it intensively. Possibly it has improved since then. You can't selectively print. The system crashed on me three or four times. You must make deletions to the record first time you see it and save the record. If you try to delete tags from the saved database it crashes pretty fast if you make a lot of corrections etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 17:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: KBW_INGLIS@MEC.OHIO.GOV I love Precision One. We asked for only *hits* from Winnebago, and we were able to match more than two thirds of our 1500 non-hits against P One. I used the update disks that came with my purchase to do all cataloging for the two years that preceded full automation, and I used that same disc to do videos, filmstrips, transparencies, audiocassettes, etc., (though not so many of the latter items). A hit rate of 95% on the filmstrip sets we decided to retain after severe weeding astounded me. I did have to change some cassettes to records and vice versa, but all the major producers' products were represented. It also allows you to do original cataloging by giving the option of a blank workform. True, you need some MARC experience to use it, but they have an excellent guide. The only problem we had was learning what modifications we needed to make to have our Winnebago system accept the records...but that was a unique problem to us. If you buy it, contact me again and I will answer other questions. Only one warning: some publishers' names are preceded by double dilineators (e.g. $$) and those can really screw up the records when they are imported. Alas, that is one thing we did learn too late. But - I love it anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 17:07:36 -0400 From: Kari Inglis <KBW_INGLIS@MEC.OHIO.GOV> I couldn't resist putting in a plug for Precision One from Brodart. We just converted our aging sound filmstrips after severe weeding. Our hit rate using their update/AV disc was 95%. EAV, Guidance Associates, Center for the Humanities were all very well represented. We even found a surprising number of transparency sets from another publisher. We have had somewhat less success with videos, but I think that is more because of difficulties finding the right *handle* for searchg. What really surprised me about P-One was that after Winnebago returned our original conversion, for which we had requested hits only, we matched over two thirds of our no hits against Brodart's records. It is easy to use and we have been very pleased. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 15:26:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Target --> CD-ROM MARC products We used Precision ONe for our recon of 8500 titles. Volunteer moms did the work. The entire process took 4 months (about 10 hours/week of volunteer help...about 5 hours of me loading/cleaning records) We had a 96% hit rate although *sometimes* they pulled the wrong record. We were loading into Columbia. There were a few problems such as stray commas at the end of fields and the general slowness of cd rom. Also when the upgrade came out, cd roms needed to be attached (it installed from there rather than the drive) and I could not longer use the new version to do original cataloging . We no longer receive the monthly updates, but I still use it to do original cataloging. I feel it is really effective for the price. One of my friends is using BiblioFile and has had problems; when you consider BibFile's cost that is appalling! We are a 6-12 school. Our 200's were probably the least "hit upon" which makes sense. We have alot and P-One is public school based. I'd go the P-One route again. Just make sure that you put the accession# somewhere in the record if you are not doing the recon yourself. We no longer use accession #, just the rsn that is assigned by Columbia, but it was useful in the recon to see which shelflist the moms looked when they pulled the record (due to the pulling problems they had in about 75 records). ------------------------------------------------------------------Date: Thu, 26 May 94 15:04:55 EDT From: Liz <EHERRICK%ERIE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> yes I am using it and love it. Our BOCES is also going to use it. I find it fvery user friendly. I have had very good luck with hits for my books. I can't say the same about my AV hits although it is supposed to have them. end of replies _____________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shelley Lochhead, Librarian ____/| 603-746-4167 x230 Hopkinton High School \ o.O| S_Lochhead@mentor.unh.edu 297 Park Avenue =(_)= AppleLink: ALOT32 Contoocook, NH 03229 U Mentor: S_Lochhead ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~