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Thanks to all that responded to my request for information about the pirates. Even though most of the responses were not what we actually needed, the information given opened up some previously unknown avenues to get the information. AND.....we have a new net convert. She's chomping at the bit for me to show her how to get to some of these http sites, and other places in gopher-land. You guys are great!! Thanks Sara Swolf@nova.wright.edu