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On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Cathy Rae wrote: > that is on the disks I receive. Could it be that these companies are not > able to hire people with enough knowledge to do the job correctly? Also, > some records come from cataloging companies, not the book publisher. Cathy and Group, A number of years ago an administrator in my district helped us to obtain a grant to create a union catalog. He appointed himself as the contact person so a *librarian* was not in charge. To save money, 8 data entry people were hired (ladies) to key in data. There were no librarians around daily because the data entry was done during the summer and holidays (mostly). (Our "contact" person supervised them.) The jobber was just getting into the automation business, so they recommended Precision One. What wasn't there (and much of ours was not because it was old and we had not had time to weed ... another long story). HOWEVER, the jobber was *building* its data base with people who were their "beta" testers. That meant that as each school who automated with their system and did their own retrospective conversion, the material was added to the master database -- or that's the story I was told. In our case, sad to say, because this "contact" person did not realize the seriousness of having people key in data who knew nothing of cataloging (or even libraries in some cases) the records were/are very inconsistent and often not *true* cataloging. That jobber's data base may be filled with entries keyed in by data entry people like ours from schools all over the nation. We are still straightening our records after 8 years because when we automated, the data were extracted from the CD union catalog and converted to our current system. (Not *MY* choice, you can be sure!) (Our current automation support people had a TERRIBLE time straightening all of those records out because of so many inconsistencies -- but they did a good job, considering what they had to work with.) Your records may have been keyed in that way and sold to other companies since such data are sold from time to time (like lists of names). If anyone who works for a cataloging company or publisher who has cataloging done is online monitoring our discussion, I would be interested in their comments as well. Betty bhamilt@tenet.edu