LM_NET: Library Media Networking
Here is what I've recieved so far on the subject of a PC version
of At Ease, I haven't tried any of them yet, although I have given some
of these names to out PC Tech, for evaluation. Let you know how it goes!
Skip Bleecker, Elementary Librarian, Shepherd, MI
From: K9Lyons@aol.com
Direct Access is a menu program that can be set up with passwords. At my
school we have Novell network which also has passwords. We run Winnebago on
that.
Kate Lyons
Stone Mill Elementary
e:mail: (work) LMediaSpec@aol.com
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From: estes@Oakland.edu (Todd Estes)
A program that worked very well to protect our Windows files is Fortres
101 from Grand Fortres Corp. I can't remember their address or phone, but
they advertise in the back of LJ and SLJ every month. It locks Windows
better than At Ease or Ironclad in our experience. In fact, it's an
impenetrable fortress. (I just had to say it!)
Cheri Estes
Detroit Country Day Middle School
Beverly Hills, MI
estes@oakland.edu
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From: HAWLEYS@MAIL.FIRN.EDU (Suzanne W. Hawley 813-592-1777)
I use a program called SuperLock for our IBM's and Compaqs, developed by a
colleague. It locks Windows and protects DOS. The site license for
SuperLock is $249 and for SuperLock Pro is $499. The latter keeps out more
sophisticated hackers and disables the DOS commands even if students crash
a program and get to the c-prompt. The program has worked wonderfully for
me for 2 years --- and I use it on 230 computers in the building.
You can purchase from Joe Lyons Programming, 10551 Regent Circle, Naples,
FL 33942, phone 813-598-4780, e-mail LyonsJF@aol.com.
Suzy Hawley
Media Specialist/ Systems Operator
Laurel Oak Elementary School
Naples, FL 33999
hawleys@mail.firn.edu
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From: dstrudthoff@netins.net
I think the new version of At Ease takes care of the problems cited about
CDs and the harddrive. I think it's version 3.
Denise Strudthoff
Iowa Valley Schools
Media Specialist
dstrudthoff@netins.net
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From: jvoranc@VIALINDA.SCOTTSDALEUD.K12.AZ.US (judy voran)
What are you using as protection for your DOS library stations that might be
similar to At Ease for Macintosh? We are trying Winguard with some added
features to the autoexec.bat file to try to keep them out of DOS. We hide
Program manager and only allow certain programs in what we call the Library
Group window.
So far, that's working o.k., but I wondered if anyone was using anything else
or better.
Please reply to me directly.
TIA
Judy Voran
Technology Coordinator
Desert Mountain High School
Scottsdale, AZ
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From: elaine_emerson@ccmail.odedodea.edu
Okay - here goes.
1. Reinstall Windows, choosing inside the program to NOT load
anything you can NOT load (makes sense during install
program...)
2. Set up your Windows applications/\cd-\roms, making both a
prgram group and an item icon for each
3. Be sure the Windows executable file is in the autoexec.bat
file; if you don't want the opening screen, make it say
WIN : (Win space colon)
4. Now do into DOS and type
EDIT c:\WINDOWS\PROGMAN.INI
5. You will now be in the blue edit screen. The WINDOWS.INI
file has three sections delineated by brackets.
[Settings]
[Groups]
[Restrictions] (I've heard this may not appear; if not
create it. It's always been there when I've done this)
BE careful to follow exact capitalization/lowercase
6. Under the section [Settings]
a. Change Save Settings to 0
7. Under the section [Groups]
a. Delete the Main group
b. Delete Games, Accessories.
c. Change numbers Group1, Group2, to accomodate this change.
8. Make the section [Restrictions] look like the following:
[Restrictions]
NoRun=1
NoClose=1
NoSave Settings=1
NoFileMenu=1
EditLevel=4
To still be able to exit, leave NoClose at 0.
Save and exit.
If you want to restrict access to dos use the attrib command.
This will be explained in your dos manual.
Elaine Emerson
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From: gdd025@SOL1.SOLINET.NET (Sequoyah JHS)
Thanks to all of you who responded to my inquiry concerning security
programs for PC's. I printed all your messages and gave them to the
teacher who initially asked me the question. Need I tell you how
impressed he was?
For Adam and others who may be interested, here are the responses I received.
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>From mckillip@omnifest.uwm.eduWed Jun 28 16:41:36 1995
I posted a lot of questions re: security, computer usage, etc.
I'll be posting a hit real soon.
What I've gotten this far is:
AutoPilot
Full Armor by Micah Development
Direct Access
SuperLock ; superlock Pro
SuperKey
What for more on the LMNEt real soon.
*the above are like foolproof for macs, but for DOS/Windows
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>From klaffert@pen.k12.va.usWed Jun 28 16:42:00 1995
Just saw Fool Proof at the NECC conference. Don't know if it
was just for Mac, or both. I liked it a lot.
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>From pmilbury@ericir.syr.eduWed Jun 28 16:42:12 1995
It is called Fortres
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>From pauley@InforMNs.K12.MN.USWed Jun 28 16:42:26 1995
Hi, Pat--
Hope this helps. We've purchased a site license and will be adding
more. The help from Fortres has been outstanding.
>Fortres Grand Corporation
>PO Box 888, Plymouth, IN 46563
>(800) 331-0372 or FAX (219) 936-3009
>Cost for site license is $295
>Brochure states satisfaction guaranteed or may return within 30 days. for
>refund (less $3.00 shipping fee).
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>From KCROGERS@aol.comWed Jun 28 16:42:42 1995
We use At Ease (can't remember publisher) on our PC network and it also works
on stand-alones. It's a menuing device also. There's also something else,
but for the moment I can't remember. Am going to school tomorrow and maybe
I'll come across it.
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>From pbarto@brahms.udel.eduWed Jun 28 16:42:55 1995
Pat, I don't know the MAC world, but we protect our network with a menu
system that requires a password to get to the hard drive. The students
loop in and out of the public catalog, but can't get to the network
drive. The program is Power Menu Plus by Brwon Bag Software.
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>From sparksdm@destiny.esd105.wednet.eduWed Jun 28 16:43:05 1995
Fortres 101 is excellent.
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>From jumatth%telis@telis.orgWed Jun 28 16:43:15 1995
I bought a program called *SuperLock* (I think that was the name)
which was developed by a technician working with a Florida school
librarian. She described the program and recommended it and I got a copy
which cost $250. It was not cheap, however, it is very easy to use,
permits three stages of locking and, most importantly, it works.
Unfortunately, the program information is at school locked in a
cabinet in a storage area while my library is renovated during the next
two months.
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>From GSOLOMON@dpiogate.dpi.state.nc.usWed Jun 28 16:43:28 1995
Two possibilities for computer security:
FoolProof Security System from SmartStuff Software 800/671-3999
SuperLock and SuperLock Pro from Joe Lyons Programming:
813/598-4780 or 813-591-0722 or LyonsJF@aol.com
The latter was submiited to us for review in SLJ but we have not had time
to doit yet.
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>From HAWLEYS@mail.firn.eduWed Jun 28 16:44:04 1995
I'm the librarian from FL whose tech guy developed a locking
system. I was nuts because we have a netwrok with 250 Compaqs and IBM's
and I'm the sysop as well as media director. He developed SuperLock and
every teacher has a password. Each class has 5 computers and she locks
each using her password. We have the low level lock called SuperLock for
$250 for the site license. It has within it 3 different locking levels.
Since then, Joe, who is a former high school media specialist and
built the first network in Southwest FL in that high school about 4 years
ago, has enhanced that program. This is particularly for middle schools
and above where kids are reall sophisticated and are intentionally trying
to break into the files. The enhanced version is called SuperLock Pro and
not only locks Windows but disables the DOS commands. (The other version
did protect some DOS commands,) Now he has it so the teacher can quickly
open it to use the file menu if she/he needs to do something ---i.e. load
a program ---and anyone can format a disk without unlocking. He's a genius!
This program costs $499 for a site license.
There is also a SuperKey disk that quickly locks and unlocks
computers --- perfect for lab situation. It costs $149 and there is a
network utilities disk for networks --- specifically using ICLAS --- that
costs $79.
If you need more information, let me know at hawleys@mail.firn.edu.
If you want to order, order from Joe Lyons Programming, 10551
Regent Circle, Naples, FL 33942.
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>From jconkli@smcoe-ns.ed.co.sanmateo.ca.usWed Jun 28 16:44:14 1995
The program which has been mentioned here a lot is FoolProof (I'm at home
so don't have the company name -- they're near Portland OR) -- we have it
on the Mac and love it. The district is negotiating with them to get the
PC version when it comes out (supposedly later this summer).
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>From L.Highfill@CMS.K12.NC.USWed Jun 28 16:44:23 1995
According to my technology co-worker, the program in question is called
"Menu Master Mac" Hope its right!
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>From acedos@thalia.marlborough.la.ca.usWed Jun 28 16:44:30 1995
There's a nice menu program for PC's called Direct Access--either for DOS
or Windows. It's very easy to use and has some good protections.
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>From MKptr@aol.comWed Jun 28 16:44:36 1995
What about Lock-Tite and SuperLock?
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>From BISHOPJ@mtps.usa.comWed Jun 28 16:44:54 1995
I'm not sure of the security software described previously on LM-NET,
but I can share with you some other software I've used/heard about.
First, I've found that At Ease is nice for "menu-ing" but not very
good at security. So, to keep our Mac's secure, I've got a hold of
Folderbolt Pro - which allows you to "lock" folders or your entire
Mac hard drive. I'm still playing with it - I may use them in
combination or just use folderbolt and let students "freelance"
through the desktop.
On the PC side, some menu-ing/security combo packages include SABER
LAN and Direct Access for Windows. We've stayed away from SABER (too
expensive)...but I have used Direct Access on stand-alone PC's and
have been very satisfied with it (I'm not sure if they have a network
version). A DOS-based menu-ing package which provides some security
(in addition to the usual DOS and Novell access-restriction
capabilities) is DougMenu. It's a freeware package...we've used it
as the main menu-ing software on our network for the past couple of
years. It works very well...and you can't beat the price! You might
also consider AutoMenu...a shareware package...we used it on our
network prior to DougMenu. By the way, if you're looking for windows
security, Kent-Marsh also has available FolderBolt for Windows.
I hope this helps! If you can, please get back to me concerning the
feedback you receive on this issue. I'd be very interested in
hearing what others have to say. Thanks!
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>From dmcdouga@moe.coe.uga.eduWed Jun 28 16:45:07 1995
I use Direct Access, which works very well.
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Thanks again to all of you wonderful LM_NETTERS!
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Patricia (Pat) W. Pickard e-mail: sequoyah_jhs@solinet.net
Library Media Specialist by phone: (404) 451-0616
Sequoyah Junior High
3456 Aztec Drive
Doraville, Georgia 30340
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8310 E. Remus Rd., Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858
sbleecke@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
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