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Johanna has questioned the Dewey system itself, but I have a smaller question. It is about the way we teach the Dewey system. I see several people have asked about creative or successful ways to teach the system. Replies have included games, worksheets, etc. In my experience there is no transfer of knowledge from this kind of exercise to *real* use of the system. If you teach kids to play Dewey Decimal Bingo, they get real good at that, but they can't find materials for research when they get to high school or junior high. I take the kids coming into 7th and 8th grade from elementary school and ask them about author, title, and subject cards. They know what they are, can find them in the card catalog, and if they find a card in the catalog can go to the shelf and find the book. Repeat - they can't apply this to real needs. Yet every kid knows where the books that interest him/her are - the sports books, the animal books, the reproductive system - you just choose it. I heard lan interesting talk by a librarian who was a K-12 librarian. She said she *knew* she was giving kids Dewey lessons in elementary school, and she was considered a master teacher, but those same kids could not apply Dewey *in the same library* when in the upper grades. Does anybody think it might be better to forget making kids learn the Dewey system (I never learned it till I went to library school and still can't remember the part I don't use regularly). If we were teaching location skills in the context of a real classroom unit, the kids would remember where to look a lot faster. You can talk about logical arrangement and finding things, etc., without a major emphasis on learning the Dewey Decimal System. At least that's what I think. Diane Durbin dianed@tenet.edu