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I am reposting this message because the line lenght came out wrong when I sent this message earlier. Sorry. Dear Everyone, Here are the responses I received about experiences with library automation software pack onses posted here, Betsy Wilson)- betsy@blizzard.jpl.nasa.gov or Elizabeth.Wil spring. Her results are in the LM_Net archive. I have used Dynix Scholar in my High School for about 5 years and would recommend it. I am especially happy with the service and support that you get from the company. Because of that there has never been any down time or lost data, plus they answer all my questions almost immediately. And of course, the system is easy for the kids and staff to use, and easy for me to keep up. I would like cataloging to be a little less cumbersome, but it's not hard to do, just have to go thru a few more steps on some things. I understand the new version takes care of some of this. We are moving on to a 5 site system next year, and again, they are so knowledgeable and experienced they not only helped us with technical specifications, but also came up and helped us present to the school board and our Computer department (MIS). Let me know if I can be of further assistance. Pat Wamsley (patw1@muskox.alaska.edu) |{ancient Chinese blessing/curse} wk: Colony HS Library (907) 746-9538 | hm: 3700 Spruce Top Ci 654 (907) 376-8854 | in interesting times!" My district has been using Dynix since about 1990. I have never heard it called Dynix Scholar, but we have been extremely satisfied as a district with both the product and the service. Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:29:11 -080 been using Dynix for about two years. We have the cataloging, circulation, serials, and media modules. The media modules is the newest--we just went up with it at the beginning of this semester. We have been pleased with it in general. However, since Ameritech took over, the smal had with Dynix is gone and we have experienced more problems. We upgraded to the 150 release in October and had a lot of difficulty because the Beta testing sites were much smaller than we are. We have linked 13 schools into a single union catalog which was a lot more complex than anything they tested on. Would we go with them again? Yes, I think we would. Linda Hicks Portage H.S. (Indiana) ------------------------------------- Name: Linda Kelso Hicks E-mail: lhicks@dodo.crown.net (Linda Kelso Hicks) Date: 06/06/94 Hi, I am in the process of automating w/Athena. They were prompt to the day in converting my shelf list (6 weeks). I have so far found some inaccuracies in my bar code classifications but not too many and I feel they will "Make Good" on the errors because they have been very accessible by phone and very helpful so far. Good luck to you. Julia __________________________________________ _____________________________ Julia Steger ** A Lap Is A Terrible Thing To Waste-- jsteger@pen.k12.va.us to post a hit. We have Dynix Scholar; have had for four years. We're a K-12 private school of 3700+ students with three libraries. Due to cost considerations when we initially automated, we have 3 separate CPUs, one in each library, although we have a common database. We are very happy with Scholar, and continue to recommend it to other school librarians. We are the largest independent school in the state, and have a reputation for leadership, etc. Partially on our advice, two other major private schools have bought Scholar and a third one is contemplating it. Word came out this week that our public library system statewide is switching to a Dynix product. One of Scholar's strengths has always been its strong customer support and the use of librarians who really understand your problems on their technical staff. We have felt over the years that the Scholar personnel were personal friends; they have been responsive, wa Nearly two years ago (if my dates are right), Dynix was purchased by Ameritech, a Baby Bell. Almost immediately we saw changes; changes we didn't like and continue to be unhappy with. The top management has all gradually gone, as have most of the truly responsive customer support people. The ones who remain are still attentive, informed, and interested, but not to the degree that they were previously. Most recently we have had significant problems with our upgrade to the newest version of the software. ou name it, it's gone wrong. At this point the 2-3 day down time that we were promised has stretched to nearly 3 weeks. We haven't been down the entire time, but this is the first day since Jan. 10 that my students can search the database with confidence. Things will get better, I know, and to a certain extent I am venting on you. But if you go with Scholar (and I still h artily recommend it) I would urge you to be extremely proactive about what cus ll get response, and what they will do for you if they let you down on what you've been promised. And get it in writing. Today I look at the goodwill and trust I have generated in the faculty and students, much of which has been undone by the events of the last three weeks. I don't like to be in that situation, and I hope no other school librarian ever has to be either. So, use my school name i you post a hit. Encourage others to e-mail or call (808) 944-5822 if they want to talk specifics. I just don't want to get accu to you. You're making a very important decision and I know it's a tough one. If you haven't looked at Scribe's Media One package I highly recommend that you do. I can't say enough good things about the product nor the support staff. They can be reached at:Scribe Software 4435 North Saddlebag Trail Suite 1 Sco : scribe@xroads.com ______________________________________ Jamie Boston, Librarian Birch Lane Elementary, 1600 Birch Ln. & Pioneer Elementary, 521 5480 jamieb@dcn.davis.ca.us My library has been automated for almost 6 years. We are fortunate to be using the Mandarin system. Not only is it user friendly and easy to manage. But easy access to Technical Support is only a quick phone call away. And the support tstanding! The Mandarin listserv is also a useful forum for sharing with other Mandarin u ers. Go for it! ========================================= ===================================== Rita Kaikow, MLS | Oceanside High School Library Library Media Specialist, | 3160 Skillman Avenue Internet Coordinator, | Oceanside, NY 11572 Founder of the Mandarin Mailing List | Co-Pres.: Long Island School Media Assoc. | K12ocKZR@HOFSTRA.EDU | [Ph 78- 7534] ========================================= == From: Joyce Conklin <jconkli@smcoe- ns.ed.co.sanmateo.ca.us> Subjec stigation before we settled on Dynix Scholar and Columbia (glad we didn't buy that, since I read that McGraw Hill has sold them!) -- after a 'head-to-head' answers to questions session, we voted on Dynix Scholar. If you have nobody in your librarians' group who is really techie oriented, you may have to ask for some help, but I would strongly recommend Dynix. Their service is unparalleled, any program changes as the result of user input, they beta-test new versions in real-world situations, and there's very little you might want to do that you can't do from within the program. Joyce Conklin jconkli@ed.co.sanmateo.ca.us Hillsdale High School San Mateo, CA Joanne: I saw your posting on LM_NET about automated systems, and thought I'd share our experi mented it two years ago. I am one of their biggest fans! The whole automation project was *SO* easy. They handled our recon - we had no marc records, alth which included isbns), and they used that as the basis for our catalog. The most measurable result is seen in our circulation stats. We' Suddenly, kids could find materials! Those kind of hard numbers really wowwed my headmaster and Board, and has enable me to add a lot more technology to the Media Center (this year, we've added a CD-ROM network and full Internet access). I think you'll find this kind of jump in stats no matter what system you use. But I find the keywork searching on Dynix to be the best around. Si Ameritech has taken over, I have heard murmurs from other users that the techn has been running well (knock wood) and I haven't had any maintenance calls th I also did inventory last summer for the first time, and found it very easy. I did it solo (because we only had one hand-held unit), and our collection of 30,000 took me less than a week. FYI - we are an independent school of 750 students in grades 7-12, with a collection (as mentioned) of 30,000. Good luck! Beth little pricier than some of the other systems we looked at but the additional a quite flexible system, and our service has been tremendous (I guess you get what you pay for). Currently we are working on a project to upgrade the server for our system in the high school and begin bringing the other 7 school libraries in the district on-line with a shared system. We will be working on that over the ne so far has been getting our AV call numbers setup so that we can get accurate l AV stats but we still cannot find out how much circulation has occurred in t ive with us while working on this problem. I think it has to do with the alph designators we use at the beginning of our call numbers. Our students and staff have responded very well to the system. They are experiencing much more success when attempting to locate information within our collection. They especially like the general keyword search function. It title, contents notes, subject and summary fields. Gives us a lot of flexibil en searching. We are now making sure that there are summaries for all our new titles including things such as main character names, important place names, or other things that might be unique or the type of concept that a user might try to look up. We also included good contents notes on non-fiction items if the chapter headings are descriptive and incl s that might be used as keywords. All of our short stories on the system have authors and titles of all the stories included in the contents note field so one can look for a particular short story or author with a keyword search (our own indexing to our short story collection). If you have any specific questions e-mail me with them and I will do what I can to hel e of York John York, Library Media Specialist Flathead High School Library 644 4th Ave. West Kalispell, MT 59901 Voice - 406-756-4504 / FAX - 406-756- We have been automated with Dynix Scholar for 2 years now. I cannot say enough good things about the product and especially the support, which is outstanding. If you have any specific questions, please feel free to email me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ aastorga@cccbi.chester.pa.us ~ ~ Director of Libraries Ursuline Academy ~ ~ 1106 Pennsylvania Ave., Wilmington, Delawar been on Dynix Scholar for four years--and it has been wonderful and their tech restructuring and it remains to be seen if the school division will still be as strong, but we certainly have had no complaints. We had Mandarin installed last summer, and so far I am very pleased with it. Their tech help is good and they are a growing company. I am still learning some of the aspects of the program but the dail nd the system is fast. I think it is more reasonably priced than Dynix. Our local union catalog had a problem reading Dynix records. Good luck with whatever you choose. Ellen McLane email: emclane@int1.mhrcc.org Library Media Specialist Fallsburg Jr/Sr High School Box AH, Brickman Rd., Fallsburg, NY 12733 Joanne, Our school district looked at several programs a few years ag software. I have had it for two years now and absolutely love it! There are about 8 of our schools that have it now and I haven't heard anyone complain. For about $295 a year you get updates and an 800 number to call for support. I call every time I can't figure something out and they always call back within two hours(that is their guarantee) but usually it is before that. Sometimes I get help the moment I call. I am teaching my third graders Boolean logic this year for the first time. It Valerie Phaup Media Specialist Pike View Elem NLR, AR <vphaup@ualred.ualr.fred.org> ------------------ 34.43.48N, 92.14.32W Teacher K-12 at PIKE VIEW ELEMENTARY, N. LITTLE ROCK Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:15:35 -0500 From: Mark Williams <WillmsMark@AOL.COM> Subject: Re: Target: Follett Versu system, and I use Follett -- I much prefer Follett's user interface. There is much switching back and forth on the Dynix screens, less of that on Follett. Since I don't work at the public, I can't vouch for any problems or advantages in data entry, patron creation, etc.. The Dynix system at the public uses scanners almost identical to the CCD ones Follett has been selling for the last six months. They work very well on both systems. Al oprietary hardware - the keyboard is customized to their system commands. So, see if they'll let you enter some data so you have an idea how the system will ackups is an option with Dynix. Hope this helps, Mark Williams Colton High School Library Thanks again, Joanne Parnes Shawhan js3462@cnsvax.albany.edu 57 Wakefield Ct. Delmar, NY 120 54