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I sent this message privately, but since the discussion is going on, decided to send it to all. I agree with everything Betty and Gail have said. I say below that I didn't like the administrator courses, but did like the supervision courses. Many courses for the two certifictions were the same. I took school law, finance, etc. But the supervision route had more (at least at the time) on curriculum and instruction and less on management. By the way, my library administration course counted toward the supervision certifiction. In fact, one of the things that influenced me to go for it was finding out that at least two library courses counted toward administrator/supervisor certification. I agree that the courses helped me in my own work and gave me contact with other administrators. Also, several years ago I was browsing around in the University of Houston library and ran across an article in an old journal which I wish I had copied or at least written down the citation (bad librarianship!). The article was on librarians becoming principals (there weren't many). The researcher looked into the numbers who do become principal, the similarities and differences in the roles, and what from librarianship might help a person as a principal. One of the main points I remember is that the use of time is very similar - fragmented, never finish a task, things always coming up unexpectedly. It was pointed out that the *KINDS* of things coming up were much different, with the principal having more critical things such as discipline problems, parents demanding to be seen immediately, etc., but that the *PATTERN* was very much the same. Diane Durbin dianed@tenet.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:07:52 -0600 (CST) From: Diane Durbin <dianed@tenet.edu> To: Macedon Elementary School <macelem@TRANSIT.NYSER.NET> Subject: Re: your mail In my state (TX) our comparable certification is required in order to become a district-level library supervisor. I am Coordinator of Library Services, and my certification is as a supervisor. When I was certified you could get either a supervisor's certification or an administrator's certification. This may have been combined in the past couple of years, I'm not sure. The adminstrator's certifcation was more versatile, preparing you for any position except superintendent. The supervisor's certification was aimed at people interested in staff development, curriculum and instruction, etc. I knew I was not interested in becoming a principal and, although I started to get that certification, did not like the course work and focus at all. So I went with supervisor's certification. However, I have several librarian friends who went the other way. Most of them have a position similar to mine, but a couple have gone on to become principals. One in particular is a very effective principal - and it is great to know a principal who really knows something about library programs! Diane Durbin Stafford Municipal School District Stafford, TX. 77477 dianed@tenet.edu On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Macedon Elementary School wrote: > Is there any value in a librarian getting a Certificate of Administration > and Supervision? For those outside New York State, this is a course of > study, normally beyond the Masters' level, which would lead toward a > position as a Principal. Are there also library positions at this level > in large districts? > > I'm interested in both your theories and your experiences. > > TIA Holly Wolf, macelem@transit.nyser.net >