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> Topics in this special issue:
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>   1. Book discussion groups for 4th graders
>   2. At Ease equivalent
>   3. LM_NET Digest - 14 Jul 1996 to 15 Jul 1996
>   4. HIT:Chat Rooms
>   5. <No subject given>
>   6. The "Big Six"
>   7. ALA AASL question
>   8. ELEM: stories for handicapped students
>   9. License Standards for LMS
>  10. Gen: Sophie ? - title
>  11. Target:ELEM:book title
>
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> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:44:58 -0400
> From:    "Elizabeth S. Mainella" <emainella@WESLEYAN.EDU>
> Subject: Book discussion groups for 4th graders
>
> If anyone has organized book discussion groups with elementary school
> children, specifically 4th grade, I am curious fo find out the particulars:
>
> how and when did you start them?
> for what age and reading level?
> books read?
> format?
> any other activities involved?
>
> We would like to begin after-school discussion groups and would appreciate
> any information and ideas offered.
>
> Liz Mainella
> emainella@mail.wesleyan.edu
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:33:16 -0500
> From:    julie lepisto <0362lfsh@INFORMNS.K12.MN.US>
> Subject: At Ease equivalent
>
> Does anyone know of a security application similar to At Ease  that can be
> used on IBM compatibles?  We will be using both DOS and windows 95 on
> ethernet and Novell.
>
> Julie Lepisto
> 0362lfsh@informns.k12.mn.us
> Librarian/Media Director
>
> Only the truly ignorant think they know everything.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:14:37 -0400
> From:    Carol Van Hook <Hook2025@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Re: LM_NET Digest - 14 Jul 1996 to 15 Jul 1996
>
> Dear Debbie,
> Your message was for information about:
> Subject: Accelerated Reader and Electronic Bookshelf
>
> >Please help.  I have searched the Lmnet archives and found lots of
> information about how wonderful both of these programs are.  Please send me
> directly any negative comments about either program.  Also, does anyone know
> about the long term effects of these programs; do kids continue to read as
> much after they have completed the programs?
>
> I did a comparison study of the two programs in the Spring.  We will use both
> in our district this year.  I cannot tell you the difference from actually
> having used the two yet.  But, what I do know is:
>
> Price:  EB and AR are the same initial cost.  EB charges an extra $20 (or
> $30, I can't remember) for each additional machine installed on.  Those
> differences I think are minor.
>
> Program:  EB was developed by educators and AC was developed by commerical
> source, thus the educational differences are rather important.
>
> Educational:  EB allows you to hard copy test to use for study guides (either
> partial test or full test).  The test for EB come from a pool of 30
> questions.  You can set up to have 5, 8, 10, etc. questions on a test.  The
> questions are pulled randomly.  My test will look different from your test.
>  AR simply puts the answers in random arrangement with the same questions
> coming up each time.
>
> Management:  If I don't pass in EB, the teacher may have set the options that
> I can retest 2 or more times; whereas, in AR, the teacher has to go into
> management and erase the fact that I didn't pass before I can retest.
>
> Can you guess the program that I like the best?  I have selected EB for one
> elementary and for the Junior High where I will be moving into this year.  We
> have another elementary that went with AR for next year.  All other five
> elementaries are considering the program for reading motivation next year.
>
> AR does do a fantastic publicity.  Both programs are referenced in many of
> our media publications as being very good.  Please, please send me any other
> interesting comments you receive from our media friends.  I want to be on the
> right track about this, too.
>
> I think we must enthusiastically sell this program to our students.  I have
> seen the kids get excited when I lived in another state as they came to the
> mc and tested and passed.  The media clerk rewarded with an end of the year
> sleep over.
>
> I hope the program will get my jr. high kids wanting to read.  My main
> purpose is to support our Iowa Teen State Award Books with this program.  The
> newest diskettes are ready for purchase, but you must call the 800  number to
> get their catalog number.  They are not in the catalog yet.
>
> Hope to hear back from you.
> Carol VanHook
> hook2025@aol.com
> SE Polk Schools
> Des Moines, IA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:45:31 +0500
> From:    Fran Patton <fpatton@MTLAKES.CSNET.NET>
> Subject: HIT:Chat Rooms
>
> Only one of the dozen or so responses to my chat rooms query thought that
> there might be some use to allowing them.  All were concerned about the
> lack of monitoring and several had horror stories to tell. One person met
> her husband via the chat rooms but does not recommend them for the library.
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Fran Patton
>
> Fran Patton
> Albert H. Saley Library
> Mountain Lakes HS, Mountain Lakes, NJ 07046
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:59:09 -0400
> From:    "Sylvia H. Hoskins" <shoskins@PEN.K12.VA.US>
> Subject: <No subject given>
>
> Newsgroups: va-pen.mailing-list.lm_net
> Path: shoskins
> From: shoskins@pen.k12.va.us (Sylvia H. Hoskins)
> Subject: w
> Message-ID: <DuLAyK.1Gws@pen.k12.va.us>
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:59:08 GMT
> Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network
>
> Someone requested the title of a books about an airplane,
> plague and denied landing:  The title is "Pandora's Clock" by
> John J. Nance.
>
> ---
> Sylvia Hoskins  "Librarians are ushers through the gateway to knowledge."
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:13:09 -0400
> From:    Kate Brown <LaBookWorm@AOL.COM>
> Subject: The "Big Six"
>
> I've heard so much buzz about the famous "Big Six" but have actually read
> little research or heard from people who use it.  Can you help?
>
>      Where can I find a GOOD article or two that explains its principles
> and/or applications?
>      Do you use the Big Six in your school?  What grades?  What kind of
> results and/or effects have you seen?  What kind of reactions has it met with
> from both teachers and students?  How has it impacted the curriculum?  Are
> you going forward with it?  If so, as is or with modifications?
>      What else can you share with me about this method of research,
> especially its possibile use and/or success in a middle school (grades 6, 7,
> and 8)?
>
> Thanks for your help.  -- LaBookWorm@aol.com (Kate)
>                                     Westport (MA) Middle School
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:29:16 -0400
> From:    Nancy Johnson <ride1024@RIDE.RI.NET>
> Subject: ALA AASL question
>
> I hope everyone had a good time in New York.  I know I did.
>
> I have a question for anyone who attended the AASL Opening Session on
> Saturday. When Ms. Freeman gave her talk, she showed us a book about a mouse
> who learns to read and thus saves herself and her family.  Unfortunately, it
> was not listed on the bibliography given to us.  At least, I couldn't find
> it.  Did anyone catch the name of that book?  If so, please send the title
> and author to me at my email address: RIDE1024@RIDE.RI.NET
>
> TIA for the help!
> **************************************************************************
> Nancy Johnson                    * Those who do--do.
> Library Media Specialist         * Those who can't--teach.
> Windmill Accelerated Academy     * But those who do, do so because a
> (A Library Power School)         * teacher taught them in the first place.
>
> Providence, RI                   *
> ride1024@ride.ri.net             *       paraphrased from "Dave's World"
> **************************************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:01:23 -0700
> From:    "Kerin E. Putnam" <putnam@UNR.EDU>
> Subject: Re: ELEM: stories for handicapped students
>
> Have you contacted your local Talking Books Library?  The teachers who use
> our services here in Nevada for the multi-handicapped students have found
> it makes a profound difference for these children during their library
> time.  Maine's toll-free in-wats is 800-452-8793.  All services are FREE
> for any individual certified as blind, visually impaired, physically
> impaired or reading/learning disabled.  There is a regional library in
> every state including VI and PR.  Also a similar program in Canada at the
> Canadian National Institute for the Blind.
>
> Keri E. Putnam, Regional Librarian        | Faith is the bird that sings |
>  for the Blind and Physically Handicapped | to the dawn while it is      |
> Nevada State Library & Archives           | still dark.   -Kabir         |
> Carson City, NV  putnam@equinox.unr.edu   |    BE HAPPY IN YOUR SOUL!    |
>
> On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Joan Nolet Bennert wrote:
>
> > Hi. I had a hard time identifying this group of children for you in the
> > subject line.. We call them the collaborative class and it consists
> > of students with multiple handicaps.
> > One student is blind and with spinal cord injuries. He has no speech and
> > it is difficult to keep his attention. I am looking for ideas for storytime.
> > They respond well to songs and stories with rhythm. Their favorites are:
> > Raffi, Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly, and Rat-ta-Tat. They love to beat on
> > sticks and drums. I am looking for titles of books that would interest
> > them and help make the connection between time in the library and books.
> >  Do you have any suggestions?
> >
> > Joan Bennert                                     Library Media Specialist
> > 22 Stormy Brook Rd.                              Silver Hill School
> > Falmouth, Maine 04102                            675 Washington St.
> >                                                  Haverhill,MA  01832
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:09:21 -0500
> From:    John W Shearin <jshearin@IDEANET.DOE.STATE.IN.US>
> Subject: License Standards for LMS
>
> LM_NETters:
>
>         I am posting the following inquiry for my colleague, Jacqueline
> Morris.  Responses should be sent directly to her at <jmorris@ideanet.doe.
> state.in.us>.
>
>         An advisory group is working with the Indiana Professional
> Standards Board on the proposed redesign of standards for preparation and
> licensure of library media specialists as part of an overall change in
> certification for Indiana teachers.  My task for our next meeting is to
> find out what other states or provinces have done or plan to do about
> performance-based licensing.  LM_NET is the ideal place to ask the
> question.  What is happening in your state?  Please let me know.
> TIA
>
> jmorris@ideanet.doe.state.in.us
>
> Jacqueline Morris
> Learning Resources
> Indiana Dept. of Education
> 229 State House
> Indianapolis, IN  46204
> phone 317-232-9122
> fax 317-232-9121
>
> John W. Shearin                                     jshearin@doe.state.in.us
> Office of Learning Resources        http://doe.state.in.us/LearningResources
> Indiana Dept. of Education                    http://ideanet.doe.state.in.us
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:13:11 -0500
> From:    "Dorothy P. Platz" <2155hsch@INFORMNS.K12.MN.US>
> Subject: Gen: Sophie ? - title
>
> Do you know of a book that explains the basics of philosophy for children?
> I think "Sophie" was somewhere in the title.  I'd like to order it for an
> upcoming birthday (oh yes - I'll include a toy or stuffed animal too) but my
> local bookseller had no clue.  TIA
>
> Dorothy Platz
> 2155hsch@informns.k12.mn.us
> Wadena, MN
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:28:55 EDT
> From:    "Kathryn K. Lafferty" <klaffert@PEN.K12.VA.US>
> Subject: Target:ELEM:book title
>
> A friend has called, asking if I knew the title of a book she
> described.  I didn't, but told her I bet I could find out from
> one of you!  Here's a summary:
>
> The pictures have an oriental flavor.  A little boy is playing
> with his firetruck.  He puts the firetruck ladder up to the
> attic, and climbs up the ladder into the attic.  He has
> adventures in the attic, and comes down when his mom calls him
> for lunch.  He tells her he really had fun playing in the
> attic.  The mom then says "But honey, we don't have an attic."
>
> Sound familiar?  Please let me know if you know the title.
>
> Thanks!!!
> --
> Kathy Lafferty
> klaffert@pen.k12.va.us
> Library Media Specialist
> Patrick Henry Elementary School
> Alexandria, VA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of LM_NET Digest - 15 Jul 1996 - Special issue
> **************************************************To: dnbolas@NANDO.NET
I am a librarian in an elementary school in LV and we have been using EB for many 
years.
 The teachers and students enjoy the program and the kids read a tremendous amount 
of
books.  Even when they move onto other classes that are no longer participating in 
the
program, the kids are still reading good books.  Problems with the program are 1)
teachers don't let kids pick and choose other books, so kids should be allowed to 
chose
more than one book from the library; 2) the programs are expensive (ours are on the
Apple 11 e and now we are all on either IBM compatables or Macs)  It would be a huge
expense to start all over with the amount of discs we have.  If you would like more
specific information contact me at goldm@skylink.net  Jeri Goldman


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