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This message was sent: I am looking for suggestions on Internet Blocking devices. My school district is considering software or hardware options to achieve this. Since we have a frame relay connection with almost 100 Internet terminals in 3 schools, they feel that some restrictions are necessary. Any suggestions of something already in use would be appreciated. Peter Genco - Library Media Specialist..... FHS Tech Team Leader, IASL Newsletter Editor, PSLA Tech Committee Chair PHONE: (814) 474 1369 FAX: (814) 474 1115 email: fairview@iu05trc.trinet.k12.pa.us URL: http://www.rhi.hi.is/~anne/peterj.html FAIRVIEW HIGH SCHOOL,7460 MCCRAY ROAD, FAIRVIEW, PA 16415 USA Thank you to all who replied! I feel the following was the best advice for our situation: *** Read my article on Internet filtering in the September 1996 issue of Technology Connection. Carol Simpson, Facilitator - Library Technology Mesquite (TX) Independent School District csimpson@tenet.edu The following replies were also received: *** Last year I did some researh into screening devices. One thing I found out is that pictures are not screened out. The screening devices only screen for words, not graphics or pictures. Kathy Geronzin Northeast MS-HS Librarian Goose Lake, IA 52060 kgeronzin@po-1.northeast.k12.ia.us *** I recently saw an IBM presentation about their Net Vista--it was impressive. I have no idea what it costs, but I'd give them a call and ask for a demo! Linda Kelso Hicks, Portage High School, Portage,IN lhicks@dodo.crown.net *** I called Classroom Connect, asked about SurfWatch and they recommended CyberPatrol. It is cheaper then SurfWatch, but you do set up each machine. Talk to them for better info. Barbara Hansen, Media Specialist Norfolk Junior High 510 Pasewalk Norfolk, NE 68701 bhansen@pluggers.esu8.k12.ne.us *** We use Cyberpatrol and have been pleased with it. There isn't any program that will block everything. Harriette S. Arkin, Ladue School District, Director Instructional Services/Technology 9703 Conway Road St. Louis, MO 63124 nvj000@mail.connect.more.net *** We have Cyber Patrol on a network for our whole school district, and it drives us crazy. I don't think I would recommend it at all. It blocks access to the Dr. Seuss and Giant Pumpkin sites, and several others that we can find no reason to block, as well as it keeps us from typing combinations of letters in Microsoft Word and Pine that might possibly be offensive to someone somewhere. My LM_NET is on a different server, so I am free to write whatever I want from here. I have disconnected Cyber Patrol from the computers in the Media Center because it is such a pain. Tawana West,Walker Elementary School, 1701 S. 40th Street, Springdale, AR twest@comp.uark.edu *** I would strongly suggest that your district rethink this idea. Have your technology committee consult with your school district lawyer. No matter which program you purchase there will be loopholes, the number of sites that proliferate vastly out numbers the updates that this software can handle. Will you have the technical support to carry out this program? Someone will have to do updates constantly. What we have done in our district is each student that will be using the Internet independently must sign an agreement. If they are under 18 their parents must also sign it. This warns the parents of potential dangers and outlines the behavior expectations of the student in relationship to Internet use. We decided it was far safer to warn the parents of potential danger than to promise to block sites that parents would find objectionable and then not be able to do it. You could be setting your district up for a law suit. Just some suggestions as we have been through the process. Hope this helps. Ruie Chehak, Metro High School, 1212 7th Street SE Cedar Rapids, Ia 52401 rchehak@mail.cedar-rapids.k12.ia.us *** Have you read this month's issue of Internet World (Nov. 1996)? There is an excellent article about Blocking software that you might want to read in order to decide whether or not you really want to do this. We use an AUP here and I have never had a problem with the students accessing unacceptable material. Pamela A. DeVoe, Arlington Heights High School,Fort Worth, TX 76108 devoe@fastlane.net *** I just saw Cyber Patrol demo'd at an inservice today. It looked good, but these programs filter text, so if you have a graphic with no inappropriate words, that would slip through. You had the option of 3 levels of filtering plus time and days - eg no access at all after school, on weekends, etc. None of these programs are 100% a sure thing, but give the appearance of your school having tried, reasonably, to filter. Combined with AUP's, good monitoring, no student email or chat available, you probably could appear somewhat secure...Common sense is needed, some students don't have it. Joy Hogg, St. Ann School, Cadillac MI edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu!jhogg@EDCEN.EHHS.CMICH.EDU *** I attended a workshop session a couple of weeks ago that had handouts evaluating the various blocking devices like Netnanny, Surfwatch, etc. I could possible photocopy and mail those if you would like. It may take me a few days to get to. Joanne Proctor, Most Pure Heart of Mary School, Topeka, KS jmproctor@mphm.com *** Almost more dismaying than the increasing use of blocking software by schools and libraries is the repetition of erroneous statistical information describing the amount of pornographic images on the Web. The Detroit Free Press article, "Schools Learn to Limit Internet Access" <http://www.freep.com/browsing/internet/qnet21.htm> hides behind a qualifier in order to make the claim that "On the Internet ... smut and con artists may be as common as useful information and sincere Netizens." Following this unsubstantiated statement with a reference to the 1995 Rimm study -- without noting that this study was widely discredited - is extremely misleading. I have included links to some of the reports criticizing Rimm's study and explaining how he exaggerated his results, as well as links to articles discussing the drawbacks of filtering tools, on a web guide called, "The Internet Advocate" <http://www.monroe.lib.in.us/~lchampel/netadv.html> I hope educators will invest in educating children about the Internet and how to use it wisely -- instead of purchasing blocking tools. Lisa, lchampel@monroe.lib.in.us *** Remember, the problem with things like NetNanny etc. if you block ie. *sex* then everything is blocked even things like census reports, or any gender list with the sex heading. We put the responsibility on the student rather than on the Internet and I have the full backing of my principal. Clete Schirra, South Park High School Media Center 2178 Ridge Road, Library PA 15129 schirrac@lis.pitt.edu *** I just received "Electronic School", a supplement to the American School Board Journal, September, 1996. It has a very intersting discussion on the subject of whether schools should limit access to the Internet and on decency and free speech. The part on free speech is written by an "authority on school law". I think it's valuable to see a persepctive from another group. Linda A. Nichols, MLS, School Library System/Media Services Steuben-Allegany BOCES, 6666 Babcock Hollow Rd. Bath, NY 14810 lnichols@csc.sctboces.org