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I have enjoyed reading this thread (LMC horror stories) very much -- both the horror stories and the accompanying commentary, but have to disagree with the recent poster(s) who feel that the professors in library schools focus on theory (instead of practical matters), create an idealized picture (instead of the gritty reality) and who live in an ivory tower and never come into the trenches. I am a recent graduate of an Information and Library Science Program which, while attempting to give us a firm theoretical base from which to work, also gave us many opportunities, requirements, and resources to work from to find out the reality of the contemporary library media center. We had to do a practicum, we took many field trips to various local schools, and we were always steered towards projects that examined real issues and tested real problems. Now that I have claimed that my grad school was terrific in terms of providing us with a dose of reality, I can also think of many reasons why a little idealism is in order when training for this profession. Ideals give us a goal for the future and enable us to set our hopes high -- higher than they would be if reality was the only thing we were ever exposed to. Ideals and examples of ways other places are doing it better help us plan for the future. If you get a new job at a media center that's not automated then you know you should start planning for automation, for example. Watching a videotape in which the teachers and media specialists plan, present, help with, and jointly evaluate a unit together shows students what is possible but it also shows that that kind of collaboration takes a lot of effort and skill. I think you are underestimating graduate students if you think that they can't distinguish the ideal from the real. Last, working in a school can be a shock for many people who thought that that was what they wanted to do with their lives. That's what happened to me my first go-round with teaching. I had good preparation -- did two stints at student teaching and volunteered in many classrooms but as we all know it was completely different once I started really doing it! I don't think anything could have prepared me for some of the things that happened and I can't blame my professors for not anticipating it. I totally agree with the person who commented that if you can think of things the library schools don't teach and which you think students should know, write an article about it. I think LMS professors would embrace/assign articles like this! Or, better yet, become a Professor yourself! 4 years and you can not only set those professors straight but help to educate a whole new generation. From my soapbox, Adrienne Ehlert ehlea@ils.unc.edu "Ain't nobody can hold a candle to you baby. You got de keys to de kingdom." Their Eyes Were Watching God, by Zora Neale Hurston.