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Thanks to all who responded to my questions about moving a library. Some of my responses are included below. ******************************************************************************* Kay Weisman When I get a little money, I buy books; and, if any is left, I buy food and clothes. --Erasmus-- Hi! I saw your posting on LM_NET and sympathize. Just this morning I was arguing with my principal over the advisability of boxing up my 10,000 volumes over the summer (with no place to store them...), putting them back on the shelves in August *and* then moving them into my new library the following August. I say why move twice??? The construction in my current building could/should wait until the next summer. The reason I am so adament about this is that my library has been moved before. Three summers ago when I took this job I began it by putting all the books back on the shelves after new carpet had been installed. The librarian before me had closed the library May 1 and had her aides help her put all the books in shelf order on carts she borrowed from *all* the libraries in town. The carts were stored in the library classroom (which no longer exists, by the way). Then in August other librarians helped me and we put the books back in the course of a morning, believe it or not! It seems very unfair to me to ask you to keep the library functioning until the end of school under your unusual circumstances. You may have to fight as best you can. It seems they put masking tape on the shelves to label what started there to make it easier to put the books back. I feel librarians are often taken advantage of; we work so hard anyway, but they know we don't trust our books to anyone else and will generally work overtime for no pay. I'm *not* doing it until I move into my new library!! Good luck to you--if you have other librarians who will donate a morning to help you, your job is half done. Beverley Buller, LMS I had to box my collection a couple of years ago because of moving and was not able to unload them until mid-July. I collected Milk boxes from the local grocery. The type they had held 6 gallons of milk and had strong handles. We boxed our fiction and non-fiction separately and numbered the boxes (Fic-1, Fic-2 etc.) It took many more boxes then we thought--I don't remember anymore how many but our collection was only of about 7000 books. Then we made sure that when they were stacked for storage they were kept in order with the largest numbers below and ending with the first numbers on top so they were ready to transport and unload when the time came. It didn't take more then a day or two to pack and with the help of my two aides, it took us about an equal amount of time to unload and read the shelves to make sure they were in order. (these are uninterrupted days) I boxed the non-book items like videos, filmstrips, machines, etc. several weeks before school was out, and left the books for the last week of school. Is there any way you could cover the bookshelves with heavy plastic instead of having to unload everything? Joyce Rodriguez Media Specialist Central City Middle School Central City NE 68826 jrodrig@gilligan.esu7.k12.ne.us Kay, About 1976 I helped pack up the junior high library where I worked. We had to close down the library and we had the students help us pack. The school system purchased boxes, nothing special, just plain boxes, all the same size, and we started to pack, marking each box and placing them in order in the middle of the libray. I wasn't involved with all the decision making, since I was a technician, and there were several libraries involved in the system with additions. I don't remember how long it took us, but it took awhile. But the boxes were kept in order, and when a student said he had returned a book, we were able to find the book, by removing several boxes and opening the right box. About 4 years ago we had to pack everything up in the library where I am presently employeed. They told me a week before school was out that I was to use the students and get everything packed. I had to find my own boxes -- banana boxes from the grocery store are ok, but I wouldn't reccomend them. (We were having new carpeting laid wall to wall and the walls were being painted.) I had a hodge podge of boxes and was very frustrated because they weren't all the same size. The administration thought it was going to take us one week to pack the library -- it took us 7 weeks. We had a couple of classrooms were we stored all the books and supplies and equipment. After the first week, just my assistant and I packed the library, no paid help and no volunteers. This is a much smaller library than the junior high library that I mentioned above. One thing I did do was throw, throw, throw, throw. If I didn't know what it was, if I hadn't used it in the four years that I had been here, I got rid of it. I also used this opportunity to make a data base of all the small items that we had in the media center. That was the year they required a small inventory list and it was great being to make sure I had a complete list. As it went in a box it went into a data base. It took us most of the next year to get all the boxes unpacked. I had the books back on the shelves in about three weeks, basically working by myself. But a lot of the boxes had items that we didn't use much or they were books that had been donated and they could wait. Each box was numbered and the information was in the data base so if I did need something I could go to the data base and do a search, then find the box. So as we had time we would unpack. Equipment was just stored in one of the classrooms. Good luck in your construction. Hope this helps. Emily Jean P.S. I also helped my mother unpack her library when she had to move her library. A big problem she had was that the custodians thought that they would help her by unpacking and putting the books on the shelves for her. They were put out just whereever the box happened to be. It was a disaster. So make it very clear that you want to be the one in charge of putting the books back on the shelves. Emily Jean Honaker, Media Specialist EMILY_H@TRECA.OHIO.GOV Delaware JVS The Area Career Center 1610 St. Rt. 521, Delaware, Ohio 43015-9001 Good luck with your project! Seven years ago we had a similar project. The room holding our books was to be renovated during the summer. We did a number of things. 1) Warned the faculty that after X date, students would not have access to the collection. We gave ourselves a month, not knowing how long it would take us to pack everything up -- our circulating collection was in the neighborhood of 20,000 volumes. We finished with time to spare. 2) Knowing that the shelves the books were coming off were different sizes than the new ones, we set up an elaborate system of marking the books on the shelves with range, section, and shelf numbers of the NEW shelves (we used scrap cards and slipped them between books). It enabled us to pack and unpack the books in any order. (Sometimes the books shifted in each box, so we had to rearrange books on a particular shelf, but overall it sped up the packing and unpacking process immensely). 3) We labeled boxes before we packed them. (i.e. Rg. 4, Sec. 2, Sh. 1) In other words, the actual time that we spent packing was minimal. We did everything we could ahead of time! 4) I used assistants, but only ones who understood the system. 5) When we unpacked, we had each range labeled and let unpackers count sections and shelves. 6) Our hope was that the boxes brought back in would be near the appropriate ranges, but it didn't happen that way, so I was *SO* glad that I had my system in place. 7) We purchased boxes from a local moving company which I believe was the cheapest our business office could find. The boxes were strong enough to carry books, and having them all the same size made storing, moving, and even packing easier. Gosh, this seems like such a distant memory, I hope this helps! ------------------ Linda Huskey Director of the Library The Hill School 717 E. High Street Pottstown, PA 19464 lhuskey@thehill.org (610) 326-1000 ext. 7235 (610) 327-0283 FAX Can you hire someone to come in and shrink wrap the shelves? Cathy -- Cathy Moore USouth Carolina, May 97, MLIS cmoore@clinic.net Topsham, ME 04086 *******************************************************************************