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RE: Computer lab supervisors -- a continuation of responses: Our computer lab is not connected to the library though in the same vicinity. I have no responsibility over it. Actually the lab is ancient Mac Classics which are used for word processing. The business department has a more up to date lab for teaching keyboarding. Anyway I talked to our lab supervisor today. She is paid bottom line educational assistant wages which is not much. She is not sure just what her job description is--outside of minding the lab. In actuality she does a fair bit of trouble shooting around the building--including installing Windows 95 on my two PC's. (I am not a Windows person). I think the expectation is that she will do whatever she can. The scanner is in the lab rather than the library so she has charge over that. Is expected eventually to do some web page work. Etc. The lab is only open during class hours (ie not after school or at lunch). 1. Is your lab supervisor non-certified or certified? I have approximately 15-20 people who over see/ supervise in the three labs at our high school ( 1-IBM, 2-MAC) These supervisors or monitors are aides as well as teachers that have the lab as a duty assignment. Tallk about continuity! The one Mac lab has one aide assigned to it 8 out of 9 periods of the day. The other Mac lab which is off the LMC has 12 different supervisors that vary from day to day. So my people are both certified teachers but not in computers and aides. 2. What salary does that individual receive or where does he/she fit in the salary schedule? This varies but our teacher aides make around $10 per hour I think. 3. Must the supervisor keep the lab open beyond the regular school day? Our labs are ope from 7:30 am to 3:20pm every school day, for both classes and independent use. The only time a lab closes is when I close it for maintainance or the network goes down. 4. What responsibilities are expected of the supervisor? Supervisors are expected to assist students and teachers, maintain discipline, monitor use particularly of internet use, and be sure students are using the computers for educational use during the school day. Also may I add that the lab off the LMC must be entered and exited through the LMC. This is because we don't want to lose any materials. The egress door for fire purposes is alarmed. Our lab supervisor is basically learning on the job. He is going to junior college now. He makes $17,000 salary and he keeps the lab open from 8 til 4. He troubleshoots the computers all over the building. He is underpaid. We have two labs (one of 25 networked workstations and one of 10 multimedia computers) off of the library. I have one full time adult aide noncertified paid according to the classified salary schedule (same as secretaries). I also have student library aides. I take care of all of the instruction, but we all supervise the labs, although sometimes it's just a matter of walking in and out to make sure everyone is working and not just hanging out. I've had some minor problems, like chew on the floor, a mouse ball taken, excessive printing, etc., but we just do the best we can. We keep the labs open for one hour after school. I have had a similar situation in my library. For about 3 years I had a computer lab in the library, which was a nightmare because of noise and confusion and the problems that arose. It is gone this year, but I have heard that it may be back next year, although the new principal has assured me that it will be in a room, not in the main reading room. Anyway, to get to your questions, our lab supervisor is not certified and is paid as aides are. I am not sure how much this is, but I estimate about $8 per hour. The lab is open only during school hours, but if students need more time, the supervisor will arrange to stay later (without pay). She is very much interested in being helpful to the students, but is wary of responsibility. She is supposed to teach the students how to use the lab computers and the work processing program. Some computers are connected to the Internet, so she will probably be expected to teach some Internet skills. She is not at all comfortable with that, but will try. Her duties are really somewhat vague, which concerns her. She would like things more definite, but resists (as she should) being given responsibilities which belong to the professional staff. She is supposed to keep the lab running--which means notifying our tech man when something goes wrong--help the students and teachers, and schedule the use of the lab. Teachers who have scheduled the lab are supposed to be there with their classes to supervise student behavior, so she does not deal with student discipline. Our 16-station Mac lab is inside the library next to my office. I am the print media specialist with no clerk and the AV media specialist in a separate building. Our school has 2,100 students and 120 teachers. My official day begins at 6:30 and ends at 3:30 but my real day is more like 6:30 to 5:00. 1. Is your lab supervisor non-certified or certified? Certified with a master's degree 2. What salary does that individual receive or where does he/she fit in the salary schedule? Top of the scale for teachers with 26 years of experience 3. Must the supervisor keep the lab open beyond the regular school day? An hour before and an hour after 4. What responsibilities are expected of the supervisor? All software purchasing, installations, and troubleshooting for the entire school, teaching word processing and using the Internet, monitoring students on Internet in the lab and all of the duties of a print media specialist. 1. Is your lab supervisor non-certified or certified? Non-certified 2. What salary does that individual receive or where does he/she fit in the salary schedule? Same as library assistants etc. 3. Must the supervisor keep the lab open beyond the regular school day?We swing shift and keep lab and library open during extended hours since we have two Computer Resource Specialists and two Library Specialist and Librarian and Instructional Media Person. 4. What responsibilities are expected of the supervisor?Computer persons handle lab and all school computer problems and we are fully automated in classrooms, offices etc. with attendance, grading, E-mail etc. all on computer. When our new high school was built, the computer lab and computer classroom were placed next to the media center. Windows were included looking both into the lab from the library and on both sides of my office. I objected to a door being placed between the two rooms, stating that it was not my job to supervise the computer lab. A tech office is on the other side of the wall to mine, but the technology coordinator is not always in there. It is his responsibility to monitor the lab and so far there have not been too many problems. There are two classes of keyboarding taught in the lab and in order for students to use it, they must have a pass from a teacher, they can't use it as an escape from study hall. Every once in a while I have to quiet some kids down, but I try to ignorethem if possible. I also keep the door shut and it's usually locked so that tends to keep them in line too. I have three schools that i travel to as their librarian and i'll answer your questions based on all three. 1. Two are aides on an aide salary of $450 a month. One is a certified teacher but not certified in computer literacy. 2. One has a degree in business, the other one just has a high school education. the other one, as I stated above is a teacher. 3. One has to keep the lab open an hour after school for tutoring. 4. One is also the aide in the library but spends most of the time cleaning up in the computer room after a class has left. We have about 630 students and a faculty/staff of about 62! Ours is a networked 25-computer lab and the ONLY entrance is through the library. 1. Is your lab supervisor non-certified or certified? She is non-certified. She has business college courses only. I think the lab aide should not be an aide but a computer teacher who facilitate the technology projects as we library people facilitate information search, retrieval, and use. My lab aide often winds up *teaching* whole classes because the teacher does not know the programs. While the aide does a good job of managing the computers, she does not have the training for teaching classes. It shows in her class management skills, language skills, and understanding of teachers' objectives for their students. 2. What salary does that individual receive or where does he/she fit in the salary schedule? She is paid as a teacher aide (paraprofessional), which in my district isn't much! That kind of salary promotes the "I'm not paid to do that" attitude when schedules get really tight and stressful. 3. Must the supervisor keep the lab open beyond the regular school day? I do, but I'm paid a little extra -- $14.00 per hour. Until this year, I kept the library/lab open 2 nights per week and Sat mornings. I told the principal that I just couldn't do that any more, so a "regular" teacher who wants the extra money does it now. That's not as good and I don't like the library in someone else's hands, but I have no choice. At least have a life now. 4. What responsibilities are expected of the supervisor? I assume responsibility for the lab and supervising the aide. If there are decisions to be made about the lab, I do it -- the aide comes to me for approval for what she sees needs doing. I then go to the principal about it. When I assumed responsibility for the lab, my salary was not raised -- I was still on the librarian salary. Hope this helps others. Rita Legan, Library Media Specialist Bolivar High School email: leganri@bolivar-r1.k12.mo.us 1401 N. Pomme de Terre Ave. Bolivar, MO 65613