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Here's my second HIT re what Software do your Grade 3-4 teachers especially like. I asked: Can you tell me your top Macintosh software pick for Gr.3-4 in any of the following categories? (I need some ideas saspo---for a meeting Jan. 6!) TIA Joan Kimball jkim@borg.com Hart's Hill School, Whitesboro, NY 1. Desktop Publishing- 2. Data Base- 3. Graphing- 4. Reference, including Atlas, Encyclopedia, Dictionary- 5. Math- 6. Social Studies, esp. Explorers, Colonial America, People in different biomes- 7. Science, esp. Desert, Rainforest, Ocean, Geology, Animals- 8. Language Arts- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Joan, We use Clarisworks for a database, spreadsheet, and word processing program with all grades K-8 in our school. In the media center I have tried both the World Book Multimedia Encyclopedia and Grolier's and the children prefer the World Book. All of the other programs are used in our computer lab and I do not know the names of some of them. We do have an ocean program which is used in the Spring with our Estuary and Ocean units. The students in grades 3 & 4 learn many new ocean animals through using it. Good luck with your search and if you still need to know the name of the Ocean program, at the end of your hunt, e-mail me directly. ----from Linda Sherouse, North Hampton School, North Hampton, NH ------------------------------------------------------------------------ May I suggest another choice for your math software--Crystal Rain Forest available from Terrapin Logo. We have used it with students as young as second graders and have been impressed with the level and quality of reasoning students use. Best of all, a site license is only $250. You had a comment that Kid Pix was difficult to use--I think you will find that students will love to explore and create with it. There is a book available from ISTE which has loads of neat ideas. Our art teacher has been bringing classes to our lab to teach drawing with perspective (and that is another idea to consider--this year we have worked to be sure that all special area teachers have at least one lesson in the lab .) Mac USA and Cross Country USA are both excellent for social studies. Our guidance counselor will use Cross Country USA (which simulates driving a truck to pick up and deliver commodities) in her careers unit. All my catalogs and list of 800 numbers are at school let me know if you need any specifics and I will be glad to add them on Thursday. ---from Meredith Altshuler D.J. Montague Elementary Williamsburg,Va ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are my choices in some of your categories. Desktop publishing - Writing Center Database - Clarisworks Reference - encyclopedia - World Book Multimedia Encyclopedia ---from Lou Brewer, LMS Nickerson Elem. School Nickerson, KS 67561 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you want my first HIT, just e-mail me and I'll send it to you. :-) Joan Joan Kimball (jkim@borg.com) Clinton, NY Hart's Hill Elementary School Library Clark Mills Road, Whitesboro, NY 13492 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:57:30 -0400 From: Joan Kimball <jkim@BORG.COM> Subject: ELEM.HIT: Student Writing Center On January 2 I asked: Do you have experience with either of the Learning Company's desktop publishing programs: 1. _Student Writing Center_ which has been out for several years and is billed in the catalog as Gr. 4 up, and 2. _Ultimate Writing and Creativity Center_ which came out this year and is billed as Gr. 2-5. It would appear that _Ultimate_ doesn't have all the capabilities of _Student_, such as thesaurus, footnotes, headers, but might be more appealing to younger grades. Anybody have an opinion? I need this info as soon as possible as we are likely to choose one of these programs for a grade three and four LAN this coming week. TIA Joan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To summarize, people really like the Student Writing Center, and many use it at primary grades. No one yet seems to have tried the Ultimate Writing...Center. Here are the replies: We use >1. _Student Writing Center_ which has been out for several years and is >billed in the catalog as Gr. 4 up, for grades 2 through 4/5. In 5th grade we start them on Word. It is an excellent student program and does a good job of getting them ready for the "real" thing. ______________________________________ Jamie Murphy Boston, Librarian Davis Joint Unified School District Birch Lane Elementary, 1600 Birch Ln. Pioneer Elementary, 5212 Hamel St. Davis, CA 95616 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Joan, We use Student Writing Center in our 3-5 classes. Have had it for two years now and the teachers have not expressed a desire to look for new software, which means (with this group ) that they like it. Have not seen the Ultimate, though. Pame Spencer Winship Elem. Librarian pamespen@tenet.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- I've used the Student Writing Center for quite a while now. I got started with Learning Company's _Children's Writing & Publishing_ years ago. It was for grades 1 and up and then was unavailable. It sounds as the Ultimate ... Center is intended to replace that and, if so, would be a useful program. To be perfectly honest, I'm not so sure that kids use the thesaurus and all those things unless really encouraged (forced) to do so by the teacher. Either program would work -- it just depends upon the ages you are planning on having use them. I like both of the ones I've used. In fact, I waited patiently to find a copy of Children's to replace one that somehow got fried (waited 2 years but did finally find one). gary metzenbacher, lms marion, indiana --------------------------------------------------------------------- Joan, we have the Student Writing Center set up in our MAC lab of 15 computers. The teachers and students have not voiced any complaints about the program to this point. [I just started here this year and believe that the program was installed a year or two ago.] You might alos want to check into a program called My Own Story which permits the production of little storybooks which the students have the ability to also place graphics into the story. . . The printed version of the story comes with the graphics as well. The only drawback is the program places the graphic in the middle of the page - there isn't any option to moving it around or shrinking it to size. . . [I am not thoroughly familiar with this program, so I might be wrong.] I hope this helps... Just doing what I can from where I am with what I have... Aloha... Earl J. Earl J. Moniz (emoniz@christcom.net) Lillington Elementary School "Doing what I can from where I am with what I have..." Lillington, North Carolina ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joan, I still use Student Writing Center as my word processor of choice and I have MS Word, et al at my disposal. For kdis it is exceptional and has lots of whizzes and bangs that some more sophisticated programs are not so good at providing. the spell checker in Student Writing Center catches more errors thatn MS Word does!!!?? Good Luck. P.S. My own sons use it aty hoem, agaes 14 and 17. Barbara Wall, Oswego Co,. BOCES, Mexico NY ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi, We use Student Writing Center with our elem. students even down into the primary grades. It is not too difficult yet allows for good kids to move ahead easily. You don't have to introduce all the aspects at once. Text fonts and pictures is plenty to get them going. Add templets and other extras as needed. The nice thing is they are there for those who have the need and interest. Ellen Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------- We use "Student" with grades 4 & 5 and find it very good. It is really quite complete. I have never used the "ultimate," so cannot compare. We are satisfied with the scope of the other, though! Pauline Herr, LMS pherr@int1.mhrcc.org Arlington Elementary School Phone: (914) 486-4960 Raymond Avenue Poughkeepsie, NY 12603 District Web Pages: http://www.s390.ibm.com/arlington "He who opens a school door, closes a prison." Victor Hugo ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hope that helps everybody. Joan Joan Kimball (jkim@borg.com) Clinton, NY Hart's Hill Elementary School Library Clark Mills Road, Whitesboro, NY 13492