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HELLO EVERYONE!! It's Friday and for that we can be glad!!!! I want to thank everyone very much for such instanteous and overwhelming response!! Your immediate respones gave me several options and back-up for a discussion. Thanks again!! I'm posting this in two parts since there were so many responses. I'm trying to proof it for mitakes so please excuse if I made many. This is about my third attempt at copying/pasting and remembering where I was when interrupted. So I'm starting over and I hope these responses help you too. Donna Walters -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here we go: Hi Donna, Every LMS goes thru the mouse ball problem. The easiest solution is to buy cheap mice and glue them shut. The problem is that the balls are the most expensive part of the mouse. If you hear any better solutions, please let me know! Chuck > Does anyone know where to order replacement balls for an IBM cloned mouse? The > mouse is Logitech. Our local companies tell us we have to re-purchase the mice- > --that they don't know anyone who sells the balls only. I've purchased just the > marbles for the Mac mice so I know you can do it for Macs. The marbles aren't > interchangable between a Mac mouse and an IBM mouse. > > Also, my principal wants me to super glue the plates on the mice--has anyone > ever done that? I'm worried about not being able to clean the inside rollers > when lint collects. > > Thanks! > -- Chuck Finnigan Central Elementary School Library Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 360 855-3560 cfinnigan@ct.swsd.wednet.edu Hi Donna! I have not used super glue but I have used extra heavy duty elmer's glue. The advantage is that it keeps kids from opening the mice easily and yet the mouse can be opened (with a little force). I know I've tried. I use Macs in the LMC so I'm not sure if IBM's mice have the following feature or not but if you have to buy replacement mice it is a good feature to look for. Apple's mice now come with a "locking" feature that requires that you stick a paper clip in them to "lock" them and "unlock" them. This eliminates the need for gluing the mice balls in. Hope this helps. MaryAnn MaryAnn "the librarian" Rizzo "We need to educate our children for their future and not for our past" A. C. Clarke "Keep smiling -- it keeps everyone wondering about you." M. Rizzo Hi Donna- Rather than super-gluing the computer mouse backs, you might want to purchase the seals from SecurLoc (not sure of the name). The are adhesive seals that fit over the back leaving a hole for the mouse ball. I ordered them and have been very satisfied. It *is* still possible to remove the seal and then the ball but it takes some doing and the students have to have that as their goal rather than removing the balls because they are just sitting there. If no one else sends you this info and if you are interested, write back to me. The info is at school and i am not. The seals were *very* cheap..like 12 for $18 as I recall. May have even been less? Let me know if you want more info. Sally Lantz sarahl@ccpl.carr.lib.md.us Mouse part replacements can be purchased from: Argonaut Discount Computer Supplies 1150 Harbor St. Pittsburg, CA 94565 1-800-527-4662 On a quantity of 20, I got a discount, so they were only $4.50 each. We have superglued ours in (on the advice of the CIS teacher) and they are working fine (I haven't needed to clean them!). They do come in sizes, but I think you are looking for the 7/8 of an inch size for the IBM's. Karen Johnson Davea Career Center Addison, Illinois karenj@daoes.tec.il.us Visit our home page at http://daoes.tec.il.us/davea I have used just the tiniest drop to secure Mac "mice?" It's just enough to discourage student fingers and not enough to be there forever. I have always been able to get in to clean them. Mary Childs Donna, We have superglued the plates on our mice in the library. So far we haven't had a need to clean them and they are working fine (it's been over a year) and it eliminated that frustration of missing balls. Sorry, I don't know where to buy them separately for PC's. In the computer labs, students have to ask for the balls and plates (which are kept in a locked cabinet) and they are collected at the end of the period. Lois Parker Hennion Tappan Zee High School Library Orangeburg, NY Sphere Tech, Inc. 1202 Brigadoon Drive Clearwater, FL 34619 1(800)329-9193 Has Mouse balls in all sizes for $6.00 ea. and shipping and handling is included. They also have tech ties which are velcro ties in bright colors for securing cables in place. ___________________________________________ Linda Morrell, Media Specialist Lassiter High School 2601 Shallowford Rd. Marietta, GA 30066 (770)591-6819 Yes, I have superglued the mouse plates to the case. It works very well. We have not had one person try to take the plate off!!!!! If you want to remove the plate, just get a sharp knife of pointed object. Run it around the plate. It should cut the glue and it should come free. We have done it many times. Barbara Slane Rocky River Middle School Rocky River, OH 44116 concurcat@aol.com I've seen mouse balls at computer shows. I need some, too. I just tried super gluing the plates in. Yes, it means that we won't be able to clean them. A solution to this whole thing (though kinda expensive) would be to replace the standard mouse with glide pads. There's no ball for the students to steal, and no parts to clean. I have one at home and love it, but most of my friends hate it. Linda ((.) (.)) Linda Strauss lstrauss@monmouth.com ---oOo-----(_)-----oOo-- Tottenville H.S. Library peeking over the edge 100 Luten Ave, Staten Island, NY 10312 of technology (718) 356-2220 ext 452 I don't know about glueing the balls into the mouse, but one of the things that I did was to write identification on each of the balls before allowing students to use the computers. Rather annoying but necessary. I understand they, the balls, are about $2.50 each but I don't remember where to purchase them. Jackie Norris South Kitsap High School Port Orchard, WA jnorris@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Donna: I superglued all the mouse ball rings three years ago. They are still working, have never been cleaned, and I haven't lost a mouse ball since. You could probably hold a vacuum cleaner hose to the underside of the mouse and suck any lint out. General grime is something else, but the balls don't seem to get dirty. Besides there is a lot of satisfaction in thwarting the little creeps. Last year sometime there were several messages on LMNET about where to order mouse balls--try the archives. Janice Weihs, PHS Library, Gig Harbor, WA You can order mouse balls directly from logitech. Price is $3.00 shipping included. Phone # is 1-800-231-7717 or 510-795-8500. Good luck Address is Attn: Customer Sales 6505 Kaiser Drive Fremont, CA 04555 FAX 1-800-732-3102 Maurice Farrell yvw001@mail.connect.more.net Library Media Specialist Voice Mail 816-646-0700 Chillicothe High School Fax: (816) 646-7106 1535 Calhoun St., Chillicothe, MO 6460 Dear Donna, When I returned to school last fall, my MAC mouse and my IBM- compatible mouse were both missing. (We have summer workers whom we blame for everything every year.)I ordered a MAC mouse replacement from MacWarehouse for around $40 - $45. I went to Wal-Mart (do you have this store around you?) and had the choice of buying one for $10 or for $60, so I went with the $10 one, and so far it has worked fine. One of our computer teachers told me that it was about as inexpensive to buy the $10 one and use the ball out of it as replacement. Judy Stewman,Librarian De Queen High School De Queen, Arkansas 71832 stewmanj@dqhs.dmsc.k12.ar.us Mouse balls? That sounds indecent. I had an instructor in Grad school last semester who said she super glued her mouse ball plates after she saw a couple of the balls bouncing down the aisle at an assembly. She never did say how she cleaned them though. Jim