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When I was in Rutgers Library School (1979-1982) the students in the Educational Media track (for the "school librarians") were required to take two reference classes, cataloging, AV materials/equipment, children's lit and YA lit. The two literature classes and the AV materials/equipment class often had students from the graduate school of education enrolled as well as the library school students. We asked one of our advisors (the AV professor) why we had education students in our classes, and his response was: "They don't teach the literature or AV classes to undergrads anymore, because the administrators assume they'll get it in graduate school. They don't teach the courses in graduate schools of education, because the administrators figure the students had them as undergrads. We're the only school at Rutgers that teaches the courses, so we get the education students too." Sad commentary on the state of education, isn't it..... Barbara Barbara R. Herbert home:<bherb@juno.com> Georgian Court College work:<herbert@georgian.edu> Lakewood, NJ 08701-2697