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A couple of quick comments and a big assumption. The assumption is that you are wanting to be a school Librarian. If not, pay no attention to this. There is one abolute bit of logic that you can take to the bank, "Presentations and perceptions are the most important part of being a Librarian and handling discipline". VOICE 1. elementary-firm, but cheerful 2. middle school-firm, and stern 3. high school-firm, and (if necessary) volume DOCUMENTATION This sound mundane, but for your own protection,,,,, KEEP A DIARY !!!!! This has bailed out many Librarians. 1. document the names of the students that have to be taken back to class, the infraction, and the consequences (loss of library visit or removal from the library) 2. document all conversations with administrators INTERVIEW Stress that you are a firm disciplinarian. Administrators like to hear that, but I AM 100 % confident that they don't know what it means. LEVELS Develope levels of discipline. (ie. level one = taken back to class, level two = removal from the library for a specific time period, level three = referral to the administration). GO OVER YOUR DISCIPLINE POLICIES WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. Document your conversation and their approvel (ie. date, time, place). TO THE BANK 1. student will try you,,,,,I don't know where it is written, but somehow it is written that students will try the new librarian. BE CONSISTENT + DOCUMENT + STAND YOUR GROUND (ie. if your discipline practices are called into question, then don't be afraid to call in NEA (or teachers local union). 2. Come down hard your first week. If they see you are not going to backoff, then they will know how far they can go. They will test the limits. 3. Put a layer of protection between you and your students. The times have changed. I coach debate and work with the state academic competitions. When I started at North Newton, I took some of the kids home that were on my way home (I knew their parents.). Nowdays, don't stay after school to work with students unless there is open access to several adults going by. AND NEVER GO ANYWHERE (ie. a school trip) WITHOUT ANOTHER ADULT PRESENT. This sounds harsh, but if parents don't think the trip is important enough to go and chaperone, then the trip is not important enough to take. This is the quickest way to destroy a career and invite student discipline problems. It takes two sets of eyes. Especially if you are driving the van. 4. Another layer need to be put between yourself and the students (ie. for first year Librarians), because you are there to help them learn, find resources, and to be a part of the education process. The Librarian is not there to be their best friend (friendly YES,,,,,but best friend NO). If you become their best friend, then this is inviting the perception of discipline problems. Again, please for the MISSSSSSSSpellings, and I hope this helps just another thought Dick Ramey