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LM Netters, Here is PART II of the HIT--responses to the two questions I asked on Thursday evening (do you let kids in grades 3-5 checkout books during their first scheduled LMC visit and what are the three most important things you teach each of those grades). Many concluded by adding "hope this helps!" Be assured, your experience and advice DOES help! Thanks for the time you took to respond. **** I am a K-5 library media specialist and I permit all students except kindergartners to check-out on their first visit. I do an orientation on the first visit, although last year, I tried videotaping my orientation and asking teachers to show the videotape in their classrooms before the first class visit so that I could start right out with booktalks, stories and skills. I'm not sure how successful that was, so I haven't decided what I'll do this year. I want the students to get books in their hands as ASAP. Hope that helps. I try to make all the skills a continuum, so that we begin basic location in the "Everybody" (picture book) section of the library with kindergartners and continue location skills all the way through. I do some very basic research skills with 2nd graders whose teachers request it, and a little more with encyclopedias in 3rd grade. I also really try to emphasize the non-fiction categories (Dewey) to 3rd graders, their location in our library, and the fact that they can go into any library using the Dewey system and find like books in the same numbers. My 4th grade teachers have not been using the library as collaboratively as I would like them to...I would like to do more with research skills. With both 4th and 5th grade we do genre studies and I'm going to be working on research skills with 5th grade. I want to give more instruction and practice using the on-line catalog (or whatever you call it!) to all grade levels. The librarians in my district have been working on a k-8 scope and sequence that will be hopefully taught collaboratively with classroom teacher and librarian. That will be more specific, though it follows basically what I have mentioned above. I also include literature appreciation. I'm planning to begin using the Big 6 research skills model - beginning very young. I hope that helps. *** With the 3, 4, and 5th grades I review the rules and always let them check out the first week. I think they would bite off my head if I didn't and so would their teachers. Teachers do a lot of SSR (sustained slient reading) at my school, so the students need books to read. Our curriculum is so full, that if I don't establish checkout time during the first class, we may never get to it. I also challenge each student to read 100 books each year, and that starts on the first day of school. The Big 6 is probably the most important skill I teach in these grades. Each grade, Including 2nd, has two or three major research projects during the school year. I use the Big 6 approach for these projects. Under this umbrella I have mini lessons on notetaking, skimming information, finding and evaluating references (print, nonprint, internet), presenting information visual, how to use a library and what will you find inside it, etc. I introduce it in 2nd and each year thereafter it gets a little more involved. I also try to read aloud to all grades and develop booktalk "philosophies" - what makes a good book, what are the differences between genre, what could you say about this book to make others read it, etc. Students also do booktalks for other classes. In other words, I try to develop a love for reading and sharing what you have read with others. *** I am in a K-5 school. I allow kids to take out books from the very beginning class, partly because that is a major part of my job, and partly because they need them for reading time in class. I do limit grades K-2 to one book per week; uppper grades to 2 books. Kids have to return books to take a new one out (except for some really good reason). My first class is rules of the library. Actually let me say tht my classes are 30 minutes long and include 20- minute class with me then 10 or so minutes of book exchange. Anyway I go over rules of the library, usually things like walk, be responisble, listen etc etc. Then the take bhooks out. I do care of books during the next class or so. If I feel energeteic I sometimes go into the primary grades an do an extra class int their room about taking care of books. I also try to read something to the kids, a short book or part of a book. For little kids I love Kimmel's I took my frog to the library. For uppper grades I often read Superfudge, the part where Peter is starting a new school and Fudge goes up on the the Kdg shelves. *** The school I work in is a K-5. The first week is a review of rules for everyone. All students check out books on the second visit. As far as what to teach, the emphasis starts to switch in 3rd grade from literature apprec. to research skills. Sort of a gradual thing. The 5th grades still get literature appreciation, however by then it is more information accessing, bibliography, how to approach a report, etc. Hope this helps. I am a candidate for the School Media Specialist job in the school where I have subbed for the past 6 years. This is how the program is set up there. *** I have been a media specialist in a PreK-5 school for 12 years. The only grades that do not check out books until their teachers and I agree they are ready are PreK and K. The other grades start checking out as soon as they have had their orientation (on the same day if the classroom teacher wants them to). I have about the same aount of luck getting books back from K as I do from 5th graders. The three more important things that I try to teach throughtout the year to upper grade students and their teachers are: 1.Where to get information (what is a better source than another for certain topics or questions). Once they have a source, 2. What to get from the source (trying to break them from their seemingly permanent habit of copying word for word). Once they've done that, 3.How to use the information (computer presentations like Power Point, are fun and work well with many subjects and age groups, plus, teachers are enthusiastic about not having to grade a presentation in paper form). I have tried throughout the years (some years more successfully than others) to plan (formally or informally) with the teachers so the information skills mentioned above are fun and enjoyable to learn. I hope you have a clerk (I don't now), so that if your faculty is willing and able because of the schedules, to plan with you, you can without interrupting the services of the media center. *** Here's my plan: Week 1 - Rules and Tour and explanation of Library Permission Slip (!) and making sure my class lists are correct so the computer patrons can be added in. Week 2 - (which will be actually 2+3 since we will start splitting) Book Care - I get out my box of broken books and talk about accidents. Week 4 ??? I don't do lots of ahead of time planning because I have found that I usually change my mind anyway. But Like you said, a list of things I should absolutely cover would be nice. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=