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Thanks so much to all of you who responded to my questions regarding learning students' names and how/where to keep library cards and easily perform check-out. I have decided to use name tags for grades K-3 for the first month or two. (I will probably employ the help of their classroom teachers for this. I imagine the music teacher, art teacher, etc. may want to use the same name tags.) I plan to play a variety of games and activities suggested below to help learn their names and get to know some of their individual interests. With the older students, I am going to try to think of some creative activities they can work on in pairs during the first month or two. These will require introducing their partner, talking about books they've read, movies seen, etc. and presenting the project I assigned them. This will give me a chance to talk to some of the pairs individually and take time to learn their names as they are presenting. If they can't handle this type of activity, then I'll probably use a seating chart at the beginning of the year. In addition, I plan to take my own classroom pictures with a digital camera (one entire class at a time, not individual pictures) during the first week of school so I can get faster results and start the memorization process a little earlier. When I display their work in the glass case in front of the library, I will also place the class's picture with it. I think the kids will like to see themselves as they walk down the hall. As far as library cards and checking out go, I have decided against using posters with pockets on the front (too much work). I'll use the method suggested by several librarians in this HIT: Place cards for each class together and put them together in a box. Spread the cards out when each class arrives, and the children pick out their cards when they come up to the desk to check out. When kids come individually without their classes or teachers, the student scan tell me their full names and I'll enter them into the computer and check them out without digging out their card. This will be one more way to help me learn their names! Thanks so much for all of your contributions! I hope some of you find this information useful. Tanya Dillon School Librarian Painted Sky Elementary Albuquerque, NM dillonta@rt66.com ***** It's no small feat to learn all those names! I'm starting in a new school this year, so I'm in the same boat! In the past, I've used silly games like the student telling me their name and a food they like that begins with the same letter. After about 5-10 kids (depending on my mental state), I try to repeat what they've told me. The students giggle a lot and like the fact that a grown-up makes so many mistakes! But I do think it has helped me learn! ***** No ideas for helping to learn the kids' names, but here's what I can say about check-out. At our k-8 school, we do not have library cards. For grades k-5, we make up a sheet with student name, number, and barcode for each class. When students come in as a class, each says or points to his or her name on the sheet so that items can be checked out. When they come without a class or from grades 5-8, they give student numbers; those that forget these, give names. No posters with pockets necessary (saves work). That said, I will tell you that this year for K, I plan to have each child decorate a shelf marker, put his/her barcode and name on it, and laminate it. Then I'll use it for check-out after it's been used as a shelf marker that period. I'll keep these rubber-banded by class at the circulation desk. ***** Tanya, I don't think you'll have any problem displaying kids photos in a classroom setting. Teachers do that all the time. It's displaying them on the web that causes such controversy. Your idea about the posterboard is one that a lot of folks seem to use. Where were you planning to get pictures? If you have access to a digital camera, it would be cool to take their pix in your first session and print the pic with their name to attach to the front of the pocket. ***** I don't have any specific suggestions for you for remembering names, but I can tell you from experience that learning 750 names takes a long time. I teach computer skills to 750 kids in two K-8 schools and it took me most of last year (my first in the job) to learn everyone's name. I think I'll just go the laminated-nametag-color-coordinated-assigned-seats route because I just hate to point to a child in recognition without knowing their names. If you get any good ideas, please pass them along. Fortunately, a teacher does get to know 750 kids quite well during the course of the school year, even if name recognition isn't perfect. Even though I see each child once a week (or as at one of the schools, once every two weeks) I was able to bond and form relationships with most of them. So don't be discouraged by the numbers. And if someone exclaims "You have 750 students--how do you do it?!" , just say "Not all at once!" ***** Tanya, take some consolation in the thought that this year will be hardest. Every succeeding year will be much easier because you will only have to learn the Kindergartners. On the first day the class comes to me I go over the roll with the whole class. It is important to me to look at the names in print as well as hearing them say their name. It takes time, but the kids appreciate your learning their names. One little first grader one year upbraided our computer teacher because she didn't learn all the kids names "like the library teacher." The computer teacher came stomping down to the library to tell me about it, expecting to hear me say, "Oh, I don't really learn all their names; I just fake it." When she came in I was dismissing a class of first graders by calling each student by his/her name as they left (another good practice). She and I had a good laugh. One nice trick is to give the class two minutes to get to know whom they are sitting beside, and have each student then say, "I'm John Doe, and this is my friend Jane Smith who likes the color red." You have to give them a limited number of things to tell that they like: colors or food work well. Then you say, "Pleased to meet you Jane Smith. Seating charts don't work very well because the kids forget from week-to-week where they are supposed to sit. I encourage them for the first few weeks to sit in different places so that I learn their face--not their place. I ask them not to change shirts, however. (Just joking) Be sure to wear a name tag yourself for at least six weeks. Since the kids don't see you EVERY day, you want to make it as easy as possible for them to remember your name too. As for cards: I keep each class' cards in a Rubbermaid rectangular box, stacked behind my desk. Each box is labeled on the end and top with the teacher's last name. When a class comes in, I reach behind me for the right box, open it, and scatter the cards on the desk. As the kids check out they pick up their card, check out, and then drop it back in the box. I can tell immediately when time is up, who hasn't checked out. When kids come in individually, I just check out by typing in their last name quickly. Most regular independent customers learn their numbers quickly. Pictures on the cards aren't necessary, since each kid can pick out his own name (hopefully). ***** Learning 750 names is quite difficult. Please give yourself time. You probably won't do it all in just one school year, but you will make progress. When I began my new job 4 years ago, I introduced myself to the primary-age classes by explaining one reason why I was picked to work in the library: I like books! I used this little song (can't remember where I found it): I like books! (point to yourself) I like books! (point again) Books about people, books about animals Tall books, small books (use hands to show how tall and how small) I like books (nod head, point, etc.) It's sort of the tune to "Three Blind MIce" but you can make up your own. After the kids knew the tune and words, I asked if there was any one else in the class who liked books. You'll get volunteers. We then sang the song to each, substituting their name for "I." The kids just glow when the whole class is singing to them. I kept a check list of who we had sung to (I wasn't able to sing to everyone individually in one session) until we had sung to each class member. It helped me to learn names and was such a positive message to the little ones. ***** What I have found very helpful is to use a "Hap Palmer" record with the younger students called "Getting to Know Myself" It has a song called the Name game that has a call and chant pattern where students say their names when pointed to. I use a teddy bear puppet which seems to make it less threatning for the kinder and 1st grade. For 2nd and 3rd I use a soft yarn ball which we toss around the circle at each other and you have to step forward and say someone in the circles name and then throw the ball to them. Before we start playing we go around the circle several times with the students saying their names. The older students tend to know each other's name while the younger students need help leaarning the other names also. For 4th and 5th I have the students complete an interest survey and use some of the results to play class bingo. Students sign their name in the space that matches a summer activity or interest that they have. This also helps them do something active while they are adjusting to being back in school. I have assigned seats in the library and each table is assigned a color. I then have a page of card stock that I have outlined in that color with 4 library card pockets on it-4 students are seated at each table. These are laminated and I write the names on the pockets with marker that can be changed-due to the high mobility of the school. These "pages" are then placed in a 3 ring notebook that if color coded by grade level. (K-red, 1-blue, 2-orange, etc.) These are placed on a book cart by the library entrance so that students can come in and check in and out indepently. I tried the poster board method the 1st year I was at this school and it was hard for the students use independently. I hope I have explained this so that you can understand what I mean. This system has evolved over the last several years and has worked well for me and my students. ***** This is going to be my first year too! At our school we have little plastic baskets for each class (we are going to have 1500 students next year, about 70 classes), and keep the cards in there. My clerk says the system works, so I'm going to try it this year. If you have space for all those poster boards I think your system would work... do you think the pockets would tear with all the use of a card coming in and out over the year? ***** I love your idea of the kids pictures on the pockets! It took me forever to learn the 970 students names when I was in elem! Since I didn't do check out I rarely had the chance to learn them and it was so slow! A plus for anyone who checks out! ***** All of your ideas sound very good :) I do have a couple of suggestions on creating the "pocket charts" though, if you want them, as I've done something like this before. In our elementary media centers, in the days before automation, we used to have a pocket chart for each class and every student had a pocket on the chart. The student would put the circulation cards from the book he/she signed out in their pocket which made it VERY easy to see who had what book and for the students to sign out and check in their own books. Anyway...here's what I learned about making pocket charts.... It takes a LONG time to make each chart and if you are making dozens of them you might wonder what you were thinking of when you decided to do so :) After the first year I got smarter.... We used *heavy* poster board and stuck on enough pockets to accommodate the largest class imaginable. I also added one colorful sticker to each pocket, trying to use a very wide variety of stickers, so that it would be even easier for the child to find his/her pocket. Then before doing anything else, I had them laminated. After laminating, I slit each pocket open and used a permanent marker to write each child's name on a pocket and to write the teacher's name at the top of the poster board. When a child moved away, I used fingernail polish remover to erase his/her name. When a child moved in, I just added his/her name to an unused pocket. At the end of the year, we used fingernail polish remover to erase all of the names so we could use the same pocket charts the next year. This of course won't work if you decide to put photos of the students on the pockets (which is a great idea but you'll have to make all of these charts again a year from now). Once the pocket charts were finished, we taped a heavy duty metal clothes hanger to the back of each chart and hung them all on a chart stand. When each class arrived I moved that chart to a table and students filed by, took their book circ card out of their pocket, put it in their returned book, and put it on the shelving cart. The chart rack full of pocket charts stayed near the circ desk so even the 1st graders could locate their own pocket when they came individually to check out books. ***** I also have a problem with children's names (especially the ones I don't have to get on all the time!), so I hope you post a hit on responses to this problem. As to the library card question, however, I don't use them. You didn't mention whether you used automated circulation or not, but I am assuming you do (since cards are pretty irrelevant for elementary schools who aren't automated). I don't use cards at all; what I have, in grades 1-6, is assigned seating and seating charts. I keep a notebook with a page for each class, but instead of just writing names on the chart, I put their bar code label at their assigned place. It also helps me to learn their names. ***** Last year was my first year working in a school library. We have about 670 children Pre k-5 at my school. I don't have any ideas for you to help in learning all those names, but I do have a suggestion about their library cards. We use alexandria at my school and it will print a page of classroom barcodes with each child's name and barcode. My assistant found this method very difficult because after the third or fourth class all the barcodes just started running together. And when it was busy it was hard to tell if you had scanned the correct barcode. We decided to cut the barcodes out and make a "library card" for each student. We use a small file on the circulation desk and we file the cards by class and then by the order that the class comes to the library. We did not invest in expensive cards because the children find a way to loose their cards even in the library. ***** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=