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Dear Friends, Thank you all for responding to my question about Sirs Discoverer on the WEB. Below are the responses I received. Jackie Shanti LM Specialist Clara Barton School Milwaukee, WI 53223 shanti@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu We have had it for two years, as well as another magazine databsae, and find it far superior to the CD-ROM. Nice interface, and no neet to do the reinstall every time they make a major change, which was far too often for me. We love it, because now all online computers on Campus have access! I have nothing but rave reviews for SIRS online. We just survived a year in a temporary location without our periodical backfile, and used web-based SIRS heavily and with great success. I don't recall ever having a problem connecting to the SIRS server, and students had great success finding the articles they needed quickly. If you have a dedicated line and a relatively stable and fast Internet connection, I would urge you to switch to online. In addition to SIRS, we use the following web-based databases: ProQuest Direct, UMI's core newspaper collection, Electric Library, NY Times archive, and CQ. Using SIRS Discoverer on the web works as well as your Web access. The files are very graphic-intensive, so loading will be slow if you don't have fairly fast access and enough RAM to support the files. When you sign up for access by Web you'll need to go through a process of registering each workstation as an authorized user; how complicated htat is depends on your system of IP addresses and cookie storage for each workstation. Reply with your setup on those issues and I can give you a better answer. When it works, it's good. When it works inconsistently (as ours did for much of the year due to setup problems and difficulties using the CD on our LAN) teachers aren't sure whether to count on it. They do normally provide a CD copy for use as a backup in case of Web interruption; if you have a machine in the Media Center (AKA Library) with a CD drive that's the least painful way to use it. We had a subscription last year, and the results were less than acceptable. We had the representative out several times to correct the address; it seemed it had changed without our knowing, so the bookmark we had set was unusable. I don't know whether it was our machines (Digitals with 16 megs) or what, but it was very slow. The students could get into the site (once the address problem was fixed), but then when they clicked on topic/word search, they waited and waited and waited and never got in. Two minutes is an incredibly long time when you're waiting. Several of the schools in our district reported the same problems; as a result, we decided not to renew. Hope this helps in your decision. If you have consistent and reliable Internet access, the web version is the way to go--not only because it's updated daily, but because there are fewer management issues--you don't have to keep swapping out CD's!!. However, if Internet access is slow and/or your servers are "down" a lot, I wouldn't change. My students and staff have enjoyed using SIRS Discoverer on the Web. We switched from the CD ROM product about two years ago and have access to Discoverer on all of our Internet access computers (about 70 machines schoolwide). We enjoy the unrestricted access that comes Web access. Now I can teach Discoverer to all students in a lab setting, actively engaging them in the lessons vs. rely on posters with instructions above the machines after having students observe passively while I demonstrated the product. Discoverer has a nice student instruction booklet online at the Web site as well that I use in their lessons. We've used it for 6 months and it is a great advantage - particularly when students CAN'T get to the Library during open hours! The only problem we have is if the in-house server goes down, but that would create CD-ROM problems as well. We were so much happier with it -- no more server, printer problems. You do have to have a reliable Internet provider -- we have two t-1 lines serving our district and connections are very quick. We just were very impressed -- updates are more frequent, kids can e-mail articles home easily if they have e-mail at home, which puts them more into the arena of technology that they will use when they are in college or save to a disk, as well as cut and paste. SIRS also offers several other features that students don't access with the disk. My entire school has found it very easy to use. Very little instruction is needed before results are had. Many of my students like the fact that they can e-mail it to themselves at home. 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