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Please do not blame the LM_NET hosts. It misses the point. With regard to the continuing experience of phone, fax, mail, e-mail, and other such intrusions, it strikes me that the solution lies in a general societal acknowledgement of what should be a given, but obviously is not, at present. How's this?: In society, simply because an individual has a phone number, a fax number, a street address, an e-mail address, or a ZIPPER does not mean others are invited in. Please, if you would offer mere basic social consideration--if you would display ANY personal or professional credibility and proper conduct--unless and until you have been invited in, know to stay the #&*% out. (And feigning apologies or seeking to abrogate responsibility after the fact simply does not cut it, either.) Thanks! JEK ***** A group of people gathers around a table. Soon, it is discovered that one of the chairs is wobbly--unsafe. People shift--either themselves or the chair--to avoid the issue. Each time the group meets, the chair issue is addressed with avoidance, until one day, rather than simply sloughing off the issue, a member takes it upon him or herself to actually repair or replace the chair. The group has a chairperson, at last. Jeffrey E. Kirkpatrick Profession: adventurer (in Aurora, CO) Present Occupation: Self deployed e-mail address: jeffkirk@sni.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=