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I was going to stay out of this, but it goes against my nature.....Is there any valid reason to continue to use 'man' when the whole of humankind is the subject? Is there any valid reason to continue to belittle females by telling them to just assume they are included when the language is exclusive? Maybe no-one has the time to go back and correct the mistakes of the past, but to continue to repeat the error is unconscionable. I agree with Eileen.....there is no way males would tolerate the "just include yourself in there somewhere" concept behind "all WOMEN are created equal", no more so than the men of 1776 would have accepted a definition of 'men' as anything other than white males. -- Jane Arnett, Media Specialist Waltrip High School, Houston, TX ajarnett@tenet.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For more help see LM_NET On The Web: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=