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I'm sure that your boys will enjoy making the ASCII pics... be sure you use a mono-spaced, or fixed-width, font. It ought to make it a little easier on them-- and you will be able to print the pictures out. Some- times people make the pictures in Arial or another proportional font and it comes out a mess. iiiiiiiiiiiiiii wwwwwwwwwwwwwww These lines ought to be the same length... that is one way to check... Good luck! and Have fun! -joan -- _______ |#######| _|#######|_ '--(o)-(o)--' / " \ joan stark /\'---'/\ < spunk1111@juno.com > /| (>o<) |\ // \ / \\##, /|\ / /^\ \ /|\'# ASCII ART GALLERY: / .' '. \ '#, < http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/ > \ ( ) / '#, / | | \ '#, jgs / | | \ '#, '-'-' '-'-' '# ************************************************************************