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Thank you all for so many thoughtful comments on someone's question on plagiarism. It has given me a point of reference which to think/re-think the topic. Our concern about plagiarism should be that we want to ensure the student understands the information they have been researching. Plagiarism - in its broadest sense - is simply copying. Second, we want the student to understand the whole question of "honesty". That is, we mark the student of what their research - thinking - reporting has accomplished, not what someone else has done. Third, we need to recognize that there is not as clear a distinction of the levels of plagiarism. We need to recognize that plagiarism, re-termed as notetaking, is also a skill and, therefore acceptable in some circumstances. But, original work (as opposed to plagiarism) might be simply asking too much of students in many circumstances.What circumstances I am not too sure of. I was once asked by a student how the teacher can expect him to write an original report if he did not have the original materials and did not have the experience with which to analyze them. Good question. Fourth, while we want students to do research and write reports, there are many factors which we need to re-think. I did like the idea of doing a report with the students and, probably, if the teachers were encouraged to actually write one of their own reports, they might re-consider what it is that they are actually doing. The "hidden agenda" that we and the students know about. I think of the teacher who constantly had his students research and write reports on every university-level topic he could think of, assigning "The mating habits of the tse-tse fly" to every one of his classes. (NOT joking, fellow librarians!). And, finally, since students pattern themselves on what they see, I wonder if their seeing photocopies of tests, chapters of books, pictures, etc. is not really saying to them "when you're an adult, it's o.k. to plagiarize" and their "hidden agenda" is to ensure they know how to do it. Another question. -- Earl Sande, Upper School Librarian, International School of Tanganyika, United Nations Road, Post Office Box 2651, Dar es Salaam, Tanzania (e-mail : sandes@wilken-dsm.com) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=