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Dear LM-NETters: In building a HIT yesterday (regarding students departing permanently with library books), I took over 30 responses and tried to boil them down into something useful and readable. In so doing, I offended one of the respondants, and I would like at this time to apologize to him for misrepresenting his remarks to you. Below please find the message he sent me this morning (in its entirety) and his original message, again in its entirety. Jeff, truly, I did not mean to change the intent of your message and hope that this follow-up post will set things right. --Chris. >Chris: > When editors cut sections from others' writings, they do so for >space considerations and/or to tighten a piece, without sacrificing meaning >or clarity. > Unfortunately, what you did with my response to your query was to >change the apparent meaning and intent of what I said. My message is then >warped when presented to over 9,000 LM_NET members, globally. > This is unacceptable. > Whatever your reasons for chopping up and sharing only portions of >what I shared with you, it is your obligation to go back to LM_NET and >explain, in the very least, that the words of mine you shared do not >faithfully convey my careful and considerate advice to you. > Understand, should you fail to clarify this misrepresentation of ME >(guess what, this IS personal), I surely will. > As with library books, please give my words proper consideration >if/when you elect to share them on. > Thanks! > >Jeff Kirkpatrick >***** > The idea that we may--and even should--toss aside learners for >having made mistakes, or exhibited errors in judgment, is akin to feeling >we have the right and even the obligation to target birds, because, >although they offer much more to the world than melodious songs, they also >sometimes shit on us. What dodos this would make us. > >Jeffrey E. Kirkpatrick >Profession: adventurer (in Aurora, CO) >Present Occupation: Self deployed >e-mail address: jeffkirk@sni.net And the original response: Chris: I genuinely commiserate, but would offer a bit of perspective in acknowedgement of the realities involved. Note your statement above, mentioning "MY library books." This is admirable and understandable, even as it is taking things too personally. Do I suggest, by encouraging you to try to take things LESS personally, that the issue is not that important? Not at all. Rather, what we need to remember is much larger than kids personally attacking and undermining us by neglecting to return borrowed (entrusted) materials. To resolve this issue we must help--through teaching and modeling--others realize how important THEIR actions are in supporting, or undermining, theri world. Lamentably, much of what our dusfunctional society has "trusted" to kids is that they (supposedly) cannot be--trusted. This leaves kids feeling valueless, unimportant, discounted; which is exactly as it would understandably leave them. So what does it matter what they do?! My advice, then, for alleviating this concern? Let each kid KNOW they matter, and every bit as much as do their books. Let them know in such a way that it will be no surprise to them, that should they move on THEY will be missed. And if they had a favorite book from your shared collection, just maybe you'll want to send a copy along with them! Sound crazy? Well, what is the true cost (or benefit?) of sending a prized $5.00 paperback along with a kid, who can thereby feel both valued for their individual self and also feel not a thief for those boks they would then care enough NOT to keep without invitiation? By comparison, how much does it co$t us (beyond the $ignificant amount$ of time effort and re$ource$) to try to recover materials when devalued individuals do not voluntarily return them? Hope something above will help. Take care. And, hey, I value you. The idea that we may--and even should--toss aside learners for having made mistakes, or exhibited errors in judgment, is akin to feeling we have the right and even the obligation to target birds, because, although they offer much more to the world than melodious songs, they also sometimes shit on us. What dodos this would make us. > Jeffrey E. Kirkpatrick Profession: adventurer (in Aurora, CO) Present Occupation: Self deployed e-mail address: jeffkirk@sni.net Jeff, to suggest that by wanting books back (books that I am charged by my employers, my profession, my friends and neighbors, the taxpayers and their children to protect and maintain) I am somehow devaluing children misses the mark completely. I can -- and do, damn it! -- care fiercely about my children AND still want them to live up to the responsibility of returning books. If I let them walk off with materials that do not belong to them, THEN I am devaluing them! Telling them that they are somehow incapable of living up to the responsibilities all of civilized society expects of them (Thou shalt not steal?!) diminishes them far more than asking for books to be returned. I can let them know I will miss them. I can counsel them NOT to drop out. And I can do both without shirking my responsibilities to my employers and my profession. And do you really think I would take the time -- yours and mine and everybody else's in this listserv -- to grumble about a five dollar paperback? We're talking over one hundred dollars of brand new reference books. Again, Jeff, I apologize for misrepresenting your remarks to our colleagues, but stand by my determination to get MY materials back. Chris Finer, LMG Library Media Program Newfound Regional High School Bristol, NH cfiner@newfound.k12.nh.us There's no use going to school unless your final destination is the library. --after Ray Bradbury =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=