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Hi Folks-- Thanks to those of you who responded to my request for books that would h= elp a=0Athird grade teacher with a lesson on the difference between fact = and opinion.=0AThere wasn't much out there! (Time to start writing, I gue= ss... I was stuck in=0Aan airport for 5 hours on Saturday and I made a te= ntative stab at it.) Here's what you came up with: There's an older book and I don't know if it's still in print that I some= times=0Ause with 3rd graders called "A January Fog will Freeze a Hog" wit= h all kinds=0Aof weather lore, some fact, some fancy (snow - the old woma= n in the sky is=0Apicking her geese) and the kids do all right with it. ********************* I use tall tales to help the students in this area. One that is good is= =0Acalled "Swamp Angel" but you could also use Paul Bunyan or John Henry.= At=0Aeach point in the story when something totally out of the normal h= appens, stop=0Aand ask if something like that could really happen. I alw= ays use the phrase, "If it's too wild to be true, it's a TALL TALE." The kids rememb= er=0Athat phrase even years later. Even the ones that don't seem to be p= aying=0Aattention get the idea pretty quick. *************** The Ramona books are great for opinions. She has so many of them! Ramon= a the=0APest and Ramona Quimby Age 8 are two I use. ************* I haven't used books to teach this lesson. I've used articles from Zilli= ons=0AMagazine. It works out very easy, since the facts reported in the = articles=0Aare on size, cost, etc. and the opinions are "I didn't like it because...." or "This is not a good value because .= ...".=0AThe articles are relatively short, so the lesson is do-able in o= ne session,=0Arather than a lot of background reading from a book. ***************** I did come up with a few more good ideas: Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss= (the=0Aultimate hard-nosed opinion book), and I Am the Dog, I Am the Cat= by Donald=0AHall. The teacher loved that one, as there are some facts an= d opinions side by=0Aside in the book. Kids can list each, plus add facts= and opinions they can=0Aoffer about cats & dogs. The same teacher came to me again today and asked if I had any good books= of=0Ainspirational poetry, with poems that would make kids feel motivate= d, proud,=0Aand inspired. Hmm. I found Louis Untermeyer's anthology The G= olden Treasury of=0APoetry, which has a section of poems like that, but n= othing else in my=0Acollection fits her request. Our poetry section is ex= tensive, but since we=0Aonly go up to grade 3, it tends to be lighter in= tone. Anyone have any=0Asuggestions? (I sense she's looking for a Willia= m Bennett Book of Virtues type=0Aof thing in poetry format.) TIA-- Judy Freeman=97Librarian Van Holten School Bridgewater, NJ <BKWSSF@aol.com>=0A =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= To quit LM_NET (or set NOMAIL or DIGEST), Send an email message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST * NOTE: Please allow time for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help & Archives see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-= This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BD58E4.F2CDC000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I scanned through the various messages on LM_NET as librarians all over = the country wrung their hands over this problem. It is not one that I = feel strongly about. It seems like the pictures aren't objectionable = when you consider all of the advertisements in other magazines. Sports = Illustrated online posts many of these images online anyway so even if = you discard the issue - they can see the images anyway. Also what if = you have a magazine database with images...=20 Debbie Hall, Librarian Bellaire High School Bellaire, Texas=20 deborahh@tenet.edu ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BD58E4.F2CDC000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>I scanned through the various messages on LM_NET as librarians all = over the=20 country wrung their hands over this problem. It is not one that I = feel=20 strongly about. It seems like the pictures aren't objectionable when you = consider all of the advertisements in other magazines. 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