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I apologize for the length of time it has taken me to get back with a hit; however, I hadn't originally set out to create a hit so I had to be creative so as not to offend anyone. Below is my original request. I have divided the responses into four categories: SACS, Other Accreditation standards, Possible explanations, and Various State Requirements. Hopefully these divisions are self-explanatory. In the SACS division, I have decided to list names at end of responses since they were contradictory in nature and it appears that some are not aware of changes in accreditation requirements recently made. Please accept my apologies for any offenses made. This has been an eye opening exercise for me in that I did not realize how many different standards may affect one school (i.e. district, state, and regional accreditation). It also reminded me of the trend leading from quantity to quality as an integrated curriculum is being endorsed. I want to thank all of the wonderful people who responded and helped me make sense of this question. So book quotas are not a library urban legend but for some regions or states becoming a thing of the past while others are just now embracing this concept. Thank you for your time Kevin Clement Graduate student MLIS Dept. UNCG 349-H Curry Greensboro NC 27401 Ktclemen@uncg.edu I have been just informed by a media specialist of 35 years that in her district and in her region, there is no specific standard requiring a certain number of books per student. Is this the same situation in all other regions? Has this been one of those urban myths passed on by librarians? I appreciate all responses but supported facts will be of greatest use to me. I have read an article written in 1998 that states that some state accreditation requirements require so many books per student. I guess you can understand my confusion. Thanks in advance SACS The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, which governs North Carolina, requires ten books per student. Note: there used to be a 10 books standard with Southern Association, but in the new guidelines for continuing renewal of SACS, that number is no longer required. I am also hearing that SACS is probably becoming less and less of a factor as state standards become the driving force. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS, for short) used to require 10 books per student. I haven't seen that in writing lately, and all my info is at school. So, here in our area it isn't a myth...I've actually used it to force my old school to give me funds for books! The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools still requires 10 books per student. Regardless of the age, condition, etc. Myself, I would rather have 5 uptodate books/student, but we have to keep the other 5 to satisfy this requirement. Makes the library look drab instead of vibrant. Just my humble opinion - after 22 years in the library. Faith Although the district may not have specific standards, we must comply with the SACS and state standards. Kevin, I am writing from home, so I can't give you the specific numbers, but for accreditation from SACS (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools) there are definitely required numbers of books. Please don't quote me on the exact numbers, although I will try to look them up and get them to you, but I believe it is 12 books per student. There is a cap on this which states that schools with more than "X" number of students need to maintain a collection of "X" size. This is because there are some huge schools that could just not maintain collections at a rate of 12 per student. Hope this helps a little. Again, I will try to get back to you with the exact numbers. Donna Neill Apollo Elementary, Titusville, FL donnan1250@aol.com Janis Hayden SLMS Rising Starr Middle School Fayetteville, GA Diane Averett/Librarian Kerr-Vance Academy Henderson, NC averett4@gloryroad.net Judie Davie, Librarian Hampton Year Round School 2301 Trade St. Greensboro, NC 27401 jfdavie@uncg.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Madeline L. Buchanan, Library Media Specialist W. J. Christian School, Birmingham, Alabama 35206 Phone (205) 838-7666 or 838-7673 Fax (205) 838-7622 mlbuchan@wwisp.com http://members.wwisp.com/~mlbuchan/ http://www.scott.net/~wjc/ Other Accreditation Standards In Michigan, NCA standards regarding books per student was dropped several years ago because too many poorer districts complained. Also, the requirement for certified media specialists was adjusted. Instead, I believe a "media specialist" has to have 18 hours of approved coursework. My replacement has a Masters in reading and 1/2 of her credit hours were approved. Tami Fox I am getting the impression that they are not evaluating the effectiveness of the library program. For NCA, we are evaluating based on our state MEAP scores and how well we do in assessing our goals. Needless to say, we media specialists have not been too happy. Before, I could ask for more money based on meeting NCA goals. You can review the process by visiting my web site at: http://members.aol.com/tamifox/home.html Somewhere, you will find a link to NCA. Tami We are basically on our own to set standards here in MI. No one is paying any attention to our collection. It is a mixed blessing. In my district, we do not even have a collection policy. I realize that this sounds so backwards, but this is how it is in the real world, certainly not what I learned in library school. We do not have a library director, and most principals are clueless about how our libraries are actually run as long as the parents are happy. I usually review a section a year, for weeding and changes. If the curriculum changes, I support that by buying books to support the new curriculum, although the district doesn't not give us a budget for these changes. Our budget is very small and we rely on our parent group and their fundraising efforts. I usually have been on the budget committee and have to make my case for budget requests, although they are usually met. Tami Tis true. It goes along with the AASL-AECT standards put together in the ?late 60's or early 70's? that got away from the idea of having so many books and av per student. North Central Association Accreditation also went to objective based standards in the ?80's? I think some states do still work with specific numbers as a way to encourage newer books but not Ks.> Alice J. Creveling, Libn.SM North H.S. 740l Johnson Dr. Shawnee Msn., Ks 66202 913-993-6917, fax 913-993-7099, nocrevel@smsd.k12.ks.us Possible Explanations Kevin, The confusion may be due to transitions among states and regions from an input method of counting stuff to determine the quality of a library and its services to an output method of results (student achievement). Our (Colorado) accreditation rules have been drastically revised to reflect this transition - accreditation is now very general and driven by student results - student scores on state content standards tests, dropout rates, graduation rates, etc. The downside to this transition for school libraries is that they are nowhere to be found in the new accreditation rules. Funding always follows what counts. So, we will see. Hope this explains the confusion, somewhat. Bobbie Ponis Coordinator, Library Services Jefferson County Public Schools Colorado Kevin, The confusion exists among media specialists also. It is true that accrediting agencies do require a certain number of books per student for accreditation, but many schools are not accredited below the high school level. This is one reason many media specialists are unaware of the number. In addition, even if a school district is fully accredited, sometimes only those directly involved with that accreditation area are aware of the numbers. As usual, while many of us support such things, we are not familiar with all that it entails. Hope this helps, Beth Pounds Librarian Beasley Middle School 1100 S. 18th Street Palatka, FL 32177 pounds_b@popmail.firn.edu My understanding here, having attended recent Information Power workshops, is that these numbers have gone by the board: districts would not let librarians discard if doing so would take them belong the recommended numbers; districts would not allow purchasing over these numbers; etc. Crazy, huh? I'm in a private school in Western New York and have close to 15 books per student. I think that's above average here. Jill Brown, LMS Nardin Academy Buffalo, NY buflib@yahoo.com Various State Standards In Vermont it used to be 20 titles per student in the school library for State certification. But the state standards are not being applied the way they used to (for instance, it used to say every school with 300 students had to have a full time certified librarian, now, in budget cutting times they are not holding smaller schools to that) Vermont now has State standards in all of the various curricula. we have to align our school (and lesson plan) curricula to these standards. They also used to have standards for stuff like how many books etc, but nobody seems to be paying as much attention to them since they are too busy aligning curriculum Trish Feld Crossett Brook Middle School waterbury Vermont 05676 tfeld@cbms.wdsd.k12.vt.us In Vermont, the state requires school libraries to purchase 1 (one) new title per year, per student. Bonnie Richardson, LMS Sutton, Burke, Newark Elem. Schools Sutton, VT 05867 Check out the Missouri State Standards for School Libraries at <http://www.dese.state.mo.us/divinstr/curriculum/standards/lmcstand.htm>. This will tell you about the number of books we are to have to meet standards. We have to have a minimum number, then figure additional volumes based on the number of students. A chart is provided to help us. We also have "Dewey Sensitive" areas in which books older than twelve years cannot be counted. Sherri Pogue Francis Howell North H. S. Missouri rates schools according to the quantity and quality of their collections. It is tedious to compile but extremely beneficial. Take a look at our handbook for library media centers at: http://dese.state.mo.us Click on programs A to Z and then on library media centers. You will need Adobe Acrobat to read the file. Beth Wakely, Librarian Becky David Elementary St. Charles, MO 63303 EWakely@aol.com In California, the legislature set a standard just this last year. With the new additional funding that we are getting from the state, we are to build our library media centers to a standard of 20 books per student. Needless to say, most schools fall far short of that number at this time. This may help. Bob Laramee Arvin High School Librarian Arvin, CA 93203 bookworm@lightspeed.net In PA the new standard is 25 books per student. audrey nolte allentown, pa 18106 I am going to be a new librarian in the fall and have had to work with these recently! Texas does have varying standards. Look at this site for more: www.tea.state.tx.us/technology/libraries/resources.html Mary Jean Lowance According to the Texas Standards and Guidelines(1999) to achieve exemplary status, a media center needs at least 12,000 items or 20 books per student. For recognized status, a media center needs 10,800 items or 18 per pupil. For acceptable status, a media center needs 9,000 books, software and electronic resources or 15 items per student. Hope this helps, Debra Sewell Deerwood Elementary Librarian Kingwood, Texas I believe Texas has 3 levels of standards, beginning with 10 books per student, the acceptable level. A fellow librarian informs me that new school libraries in Texas have 5 years to attain this minimum goal. The next increments are 15 and 20 which is the exemplary level. Laurie Thelen <laurie_thelen@hotmail.com> I can't tell you about districts or other regulations, but in Ohio the State Department of Education publishes a book as part of the "Minimum standards leadership series" called Quality Library Services K-12. In the Collection Guidelines Appendix E it gives three phases for collection building. Phase III suggests that an Elementary school might have 22 books per pupil, and a secondary school might have 25 books per pupil. (this booklet was done in 1985, by the way) Connie Welch, Librarian cwelch@freenet.columbus.oh.us O.L.P.H. School Grove City, Oh 43123 I know of no official standards concerning the number of books per student in New Jersey, although I was in one school where the library had to be called the "book storage room" or some such name because (I thought) of the size of the room, which was the size of a classroom. When they moved the library to a larger area, we were able to call it the library media center. --- Mary Ellen Hamalainen Elementary Library Media Specialist Bloomfield NJ <hamalainen@earthlink.net> In Idaho, different accreditation standards exist and schools may choose which accreditation standard they wish to follow. In the Northwest Association of Schools and Colleges, Standard IV- Library Media Program, the following requirements are made: Middle Level and High Schools with enrollment less than 200 only: Minimum of 2500 volumes, exclusive of government documents and textbooks. (Up to 50% variance allowed for supplementing nonfiction collection with equiv. volumes using elec. access and/or microfiche. Middle Level and High Schools with Enrollment over 200 only: Minimum of 10 volumes per student up to 12,500 volumes, exclusive of government documents and textbooks. (variance up to 50% allowed for schools supplementing nonfiction coll. with equiv. volumes using elec. access and/or microfiche. Elem., K-12, Special Purpose Schools only: Minimum of 15 books per child, or 3000 books, whichever is greater, except in schools under 100 students, then 15 books per child is the standard. (Up to 50% variance allowed for schools supplementing nonfiction collection with equiv. volumes using elec. access and/or microfiche. The source for this information was taken from the Idaho School Librarian's Information Manual, printed in 1998 by the Idaho Department of Education, Boise, Idaho. Hope this helps. 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