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A long-delayed HIT on the following question, which was posted back last spring. "Who among us is involved in a cooperative relationship, consortium, or whatever you want to call it, between school libraries and public libraries? "Our school district is looking to talk briefly with schools about the pros and cons of various kinds of relationships possible with public libraries. We're in the very early stages of exploring a LSTA planning grant here." We didn't get the LSTA planning grant, but appreciate the information we gathered here. I left the names and affiliations on the messages, thinking that others might want to talk to those of us who are have joint catalogs with public libraries. Thanks. Edith. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 19:52:22 -0800 From: Victor K. Forsberg <PrincessA@worldnet.att.net> To: Edith Fuller <efuller@TELEPORT.COM> Subject: Re: GEN: school/library cooperation You need to speak with Sally Kinsey or Frankie Lukasko here in Reno. Sally is the Washoe Co. Library joint-use representative, and Frankie is the Library Coordinator for the Washoe Co. School District. We have several facilities already, and the previous director of the Washoe Co. Library (who is on the Presidential Library Committee--Martha Gould) is a real expert on this. The first facility was way out in Gerlach with the public library and Gerlach high school. (I think about 11-12 years ago!!). We now have 6: Billinghurst Middle, Duncan Ele-Traner Middle, Galena High, Gerlach High, Mendive Middle and Verdi Ele joint-use libraries. Sally's number is 775-785-4007, her title is Youth Services Coordinator for the Washoe Co. Library System. Frankie's number is 775-333-5385 x 2, her title is Library Technology Coordinator for the Washoe Co. School District. Heidi is her sect.'s name, Frankie is difficult to get on the phone. Try email maybe flukasko@washoe.k12.nv.us. Washoe Co. School district has approx. 52,000 students with 80 schools. And they have lots of experience with this joint-use thing. Contact me if you would like further info. Nancy Forsberg, Librarian Wooster High School Reno, NV 89502 333-5100 x 247 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:16:05 EST From: SWEENKS770@aol.com To: efuller@teleport.com Subject: Re: GEN: school/library cooperation Greetings- We have just formally joined with our public library. We really have been joined before but now the formal joining is because the state library department has said that if we do, they will finance this wonderful reference and resource package and give it to both school libraries and public libraries. It includes wonderful things like SIRS, AP wire photos, Groliers Encyclopedia online, and ERIC files. All that we have to do is meet once a year, make sure that if our teachers are going to do a big project that we communicate this to the public library so that they can be prepared, and sign our kids up for their summer reading program (which we already do). It took some paper work and some tech stuff, but we should have all of our "goodies" in a couple of months. Our Commonwealth libraries have been very generous. Good luck! Kathy Sweeney, Librarian Titus Elementary School Warrington, PA 18976 (just north of Philadelphia) ++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:00:35 -0500 From: Cynthia Cassidy <ccassidy@gmrsd.com> To: 'Edith Fuller' <efuller@TELEPORT.COM> Subject: RE: school/library cooperation Did you see this month's SLJ? There is an article on this subject by a public library that does this. Cynthia Cynthia Cassidy Media Specialist & KidsConnect Volunteer Great Meadows Middle School Great Meadows, NJ 08865 ++++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:41:37 -0600 From: Jane Evers <jevers@comfrey.mntm.org> To: Edith Fuller <efuller@TELEPORT.COM> Subject: Re: GEN: school/library cooperation We have just established a joint school/public library. We are a small town (population 430) with a small independent k-12 school (185 students)and our public and school libraries were destroyed in a tornado last spring. We are rebuilding the school which will house the combined libraries. If you have any questions I will try to answer them. I can't tell you how it will go because the building isn't completed and everything is temporary right now. We are holding school in a neighboring town as they had just closed their school building. Good luck, let me know what you find out. At this time I would appreciate any suggestions I can get. Jane +++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:00:31 -0600 From: Eliece Edge <medge@alvin.isd.tenet.edu> To: Edith Fuller <efuller@TELEPORT.COM> Subject: RE: Public Library Consortium Hi Edith, About 15 years ago, the public library system in our county wrote a grant to create a consortium between all its branches in the various towns and all the secondary school libraries in the county. This involved providing retrospective conversion for all the schools' catalogs, one search station per school which gave us access to each other's catalogs, and pick-up and delivery service 3 times a week. All of this took place before any of us were automated, so the information was available to us through a CD-ROM program called "Le Pac" which was updated once a year by Brodart. There was no cost to the schools at all. As the years went on, we all began to become automated; the schools mostly using Follett's Unison software. I don't recall which software the public branches went to, although I do know it is not Follett. A couple of years ago, the county commissioners decided not to continue the expense of annually updating the CD-ROM. We now access the county libraries' collections online through the Internet. They do continue to bring us books when we order them over the phone, although they don't routinely come by three times a week anymore. This still gives us access to all the materials in the public library collections, but we can't see the collections of other schools anymore. However, the great state of Texas now has a program called "Texas Library Connection" which all public schools may join by simply applying and sending in their databases on discs. This allows for widespread interlibrary loans throughout the state. If you are interested in getting a closer look at this program, go to: < http://www.tea.state.tx.us/technology/TLC/> Eliece Edge, Librarian Alvin Junior High School Alvin, TX <medge@alvin.isd.tenet.edu> ++++++++++++++++++ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:18:02 -0600 From: Jane Prestebak <prestebak@heso.state.mn.us> To: efuller@teleport.com Subject: school/public libraries You asked about schools and public libraries. Our regional professional org. just held a session on school public coop. I will paste the meeting summary at the end of this message. Schools and public libraries are working together to add school records to regional public library databases to have access to the MnLINK Gateway. You can learn more about that project from: www.mnlink.org Perhaps this will help. jane Region 10 & 11 MEMO meeting focuses on school/public library cooperation, February 25, 1999 The meeting was held at the Roseville branch of the Ramsey County Public Library. Jane Prestebak, K-12 Coordinator for the MnLINK project, facilitated a panel discussion. Panel members included John Bergeron, Circulation Supervisor, Roseville branch, Ramsey County Libraries; Jeff Stedman, Media & Technology Coordinator, Roseville Area Schools; Francine Alt, Automation Coordinator, East Central Regional Library; David Cole, Automation Coordinator, Great River Regional Library; and Karen Hibberd, Media Generalist, Simley High School. Each panelist described cooperative efforts going on in their region between schools and public libraries. Ramsey County Library started a program to distribute public library materials to school libraries in 1994. The first school district to come on board was North St. Paul. Since then three other districts in the county have started using the service. Each school is assigned a barcode number from the public library system. Schools can place holds for materials using the Dynix*system. These materials are pulled and placed in a bin for each district. Each district is responsible to pick up materials at their local branch. Bergeron said the about half of the 54 schools involved have used the system extensively. Of all the materials (2800) that were loaned only three items have been lost. He feels the project has been very successful and "it is a pleasure working with school districts." Roseville Area Schools sends district transportation to the Roseville branch public library every day. Materials are delivered to the high school and sorted for delivery to the middle and elementary schools the next day. Gregg Martinson, Roseville High School, explained that this project has really helped to fill in the holes in the collection made obvious by the introduction of graduation standards. Roseville schools are exploring the possibility of merging their databases into the Ramsey County Dynix system. This would allow materials in school libraries to be visible to public library patrons and sharing could go both ways. This would allow Roseville schools to develop the union catalog and providing gateway to MnLINK. Stedman talked about the benefits of sharing materials--the "stone soup" attitude in a recent MEMORandom editorial. Aitkin High School and North Branch High School are preparing to join the East Central Regional Library Dynix system (ECRL). When she was hired in April, Francine Alt, said they planned to have the schools online by September. One thing she has learned is that takes time to develop a project like this--at least a year. The schools involved exported their MARC records and send them to OCLC* for conversion. This took many months and the conversion hit rate was not as high as they would have liked (50%). After conversion the records are sent to Dynix who creates smart (with authors and titles) barcodes for all unique items. Schools want to be able to see materials available in whole region. One school wants students to have the ability to place their own holds. Students will have a separate patron card for school for the school and their public library. Great River Regional Library (GRRL) is working with two school districts, Kimball and Sartell. David Cole said that there conversion project is nearing completion and schools will soon be fully online. Schools will be able to login to graphical user interface and see only holdings for their own schools. They can also expand their search to the whole region. Using funds from LSTG*, GRRL expanded their server capacity and converted the school records using Dynix's Retrolink* program. They had an 85 percent hit rate for conversion. All school records were loaded into the system. The 15 percent will be cleaned up as time permits. In the process, school's retained only their local call number and location. They will be using Library of Congress Subject Headings (LCSH) for all records. Cole emphasized that communication is a crucial factor in the success of the project. He developed a web page to communicate with schools about project (www.griver.org/mnlink/). He learned that school library media specialists are very busy people. GRRL will probably continue to cataloging for the schools. Cole also emphasized that is important not to rush the process; it is better to proceed carefully and not try to meet some deadline. The schools involved agreed that it has been rough ride, but very worthwhile. Schools are almost ready to start circulating materials using the Dynix system. They have been running their old automation systems simultaneously until the new system is put in place and tested. You can search and display school records on the MnLINK Gateway (www.mnlink.org) at this time, they do not display on the web interface of the GRRL. Karen Hibberd described efforts in her community for collaboration between the school district, the city, the public library, and a community college. All these groups have worked together to build a new public library that will serve the community as a whole. The new public library will include a computer lab with 20 stations that will be open longer hours. The Simley High School is just beginning the process of converting their database to be loaded the Dakota County Dynix system. Using LSTG funds, they will use Retrolink to convert the records. Hibberd spoke enthusiastically about their collaborative project to build better access to all community resources. During the question and answer period, Colleen Wehling, from Oxbow Creek Elementary School in Champlain, described her project working with the Hennipin County Library. They started a collaborative project that connects classrooms to the public library. Each classroom has library card and can place holds for materials. They have hired a courier service to pick up and deliver the materials. During the last week of school public library comes in and introduces the summer reading program. A community group paid for a terminal in the school library media center with the Kid's Catalog* interface to the public library collection. Wehling said there was some resistance when she first brought up the idea of working more closely with the public library. There was a fear that the public library would take over the school library, but the project has demonstrated that, working together, the school and public libraries complement one another. *Glossary and web site directory LSTG: Library Site Technology Grant: this state grant fund made $3.5 million available for collaborative technology projects. Most of these funds were allocated to collaboratives seeking to load school library database records onto regional systems. Although this was not included in the governor's budget MLA/MEMO is sponsoring legislation to renew this funding. SF: Check with multitype coordinator for current information. LSTA: Library Services and Technology Act: this federal grant channel through the Office of Library Development and Services (LDS) provides $2.8 million dollars for collaborative technology projects. For more information, contact Roger Sween, LDS, 651-582-8722 Dynix: this integrated automation system is used in 8 regional library systems in Minnesota. The system includes modules for an OPAC (online catalog), a web catalog, circulation, cataloging, media booking, reserves, etc. For more information, see: http://www.amlibs.com/ Dynix Retrolink: this is Dynix's retrospective conversion service. Conversion from both paper and electronic format is possible. For more information see: http://www.amlibs.com/product/retrolink/index.htm OCLC: A large bibliographic utility providing conversion services. All PALS libraries and many public libraries purchase their cataloging records from OCLC. MINITEX coordinates OCLC services in Minnesota only, contact Carla Dewey, 800-462-5348. Kid's Catalog: this kid-friendly interface was designed by the CARL Corporation, of library automation company. Kid's Catalog is sold as a front-end for a variety of automated systems. For more information or download a demo in either Mac or Windows format, see: http://www.carl.org/pubaccess/KC.html GRRL catalog: http://www.griver.org/#Connecting ECRL catalog: http://ecrl.lib.mn.us/connect.html Ramsey County library catalog: http://www.ramsey.lib.mn.us/catalog/catalog.htm Jane Prestebak The MnLINK Project 1450 Energy Park Dr., Suite 350 St. Paul, MN 55108-5227 prestebak@heso.state.mn.us Phone: (651) 642-0567, ex. 3723 Fax: (651) 642-0675 http://www.mnlink.org ++++++++++++++++ Edith, Hi! I am fairly sure that Palo Alto Unified School District in Palo Alto, CA is doing a public/school library partnership at the high school level. You may want to give them a call. Tina Nelson District Librarian Moreland School District San Jose, CA ++++++++++++++++++++ By the end of the year we expect to be in a shared system with four other public libraries; three of us are already Dynix & have our own barcode sequences. We'll just merge everything into one patron file. Mark W. Arend Beaver Dam Community Library 311 N. Spring St. Outside of a dog, a book is Beaver Dam, Wisc. 53916 man's best friend. Inside of (920) 887-4631 (fax 887-4633) a dog it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx www.centuryinter.net/bdlib/ mailto:arend@centuryinter.net ++++++++++++++++++++++ Edith Fuller Librarian, Professional Library Portland Public Schools P.O. 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