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Part 3:

I am not from your state, and really have no idea what the expectation =
on the students is for retell. However, I do have a couple of thoughts. =
If they help, please use them. If not, hit the delete button with my =
blessing. :-)
1) The 4th grade teachers should model for you first. Since I am =
currently a 4th grade teacher dealing with Texas state testing, I can =
say that.=20
2) I use a summary method for fiction with my children. If all the =
students have to do is retell the basic storyline, then this will help. =
It is called SCAO. The S stands for setting, the C for characters, the A =
for action, and the O for outcome (with fables this will include the =
lesson or moral). We use this system to teach storyline and to help our =
students write one paragraph summaries of stories by writing one to =
three sentences for each part of the summary acronym.
3) I don't remember when you said your test was, and I know that =
listening and reading are different, but if the students are being =
tested on their ability to retell minute details, then you should check =
into the methods introduced in the book Read and Retell. I forget the =
author and do not have it at home. However, it is simply a book with a =
model of how to get students to retell texts that they have read in an =
accurate and detailed manner. It also has many different texts from =
different genres that you may copy from the book to use in instruction. =
It would seem to be helpful to your cause.


First Steps series by Heineman has a wonderful section on "Notemaking" I =
have found it to be very clear and useful to our 3-5th grade students.

I found this web site which isn't great but it is something...
http://www.learningexchange.net/study.html
http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notetaking.html
http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notephone.html
http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/jansenart.html
http://teacher.scholastic.com/lessonrepro/lessonplans/theme/res23.htm
There must be books out there by Scholastic on this because I know we =
get lots of study books in our library for kids...That's a tough =
assignement. Do they understand that kids learn differently and some =
kids might like to use a cassette player..?=20

When I was working in elementary, I did a 1/2 year unit in fifth grade =
and a briefer version in grade 4 on note taking. The end product was a =
state parade 'float' which was simply a visual display using a specified =
number of facts from all the notes taken. We started in grade 5, by =
selecting a 'favorite' state, then I used info I pre-selected from which =
they took notes (before which I gave note-taking lessons)...write =
neatly, in phrases, on unlined paper but stressing writing or printing =
straight, accuracy, noting the used source (copyright date,publisher, =
title, author, page(s) used...notes taken from each pre-selected info =
sheet was on a separate sheet...it was all very prescribed and =
supervized by me...until near the end they had to use ANYY public =
library resource they wished...then they evenutally wrote a paper. The =
note taking sheets I called "Snoopy sheets" because they had a picture =
of Snoopy at the top. They were regular ditto paper, cut in strips to =
give the air of note cards...but kept in binder or library folder so as =
not to lose them. It was great fun esp. because of the end product which =
was only incidental to me but loved by parents and others who saw our =
long 'parade' of 'floats'....this was near New years eve so I keyed in =
on the parades before football games.


I teach note taking all the time to my elementary students. The best way =
is to model for them. Find a selection that you think will work. Make =
copies for each child. I have photocopied and typed selections into the =
computer and printed it out. Explain what note taking is. show them the =
article that they are reading and what type of information that they are =
looking for. Put these topic on the boardd leaving room to take note. =
read the first paragraph out loud, stop, question do you read anything =
that fits the topics you are looking for. Write the appropriate notes on =
the board. Read the next paragraph ask the students if they see anything =
to take notes on. Keep going until they understand. Make sure to point =
out that you are note writing sentences. by the end of the lesson they =
should be able to do it them selves. I have taught notetaking to 2nd =
graders. Think about it,, take it step by step, think out loud why you =
are taking that note.

Nancy O'Donnell
Library Media Specialist
Theodore Roosevelt Elementary School
Kenmore, New York 14217
ODonn247@email.msn.com






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<P>Part 3:</P>
<P>I am not from your state, and really have no idea what the =
expectation on the=20
students is for retell. However, I do have a couple of thoughts. If they =
help,=20
please use them. If not, hit the delete button with my blessing. =
:-)<BR>1) The=20
4th grade teachers should model for you first. Since I am currently a =
4th grade=20
teacher dealing with Texas state testing, I can say that. <BR>2) I use a =
summary=20
method for fiction with my children. If all the students have to do is =
retell=20
the basic storyline, then this will help. It is called SCAO. The S =
stands for=20
setting, the C for characters, the A for action, and the O for outcome =
(with=20
fables this will include the lesson or moral). We use this system to =
teach=20
storyline and to help our students write one paragraph summaries of =
stories by=20
writing one to three sentences for each part of the summary =
acronym.<BR>3) I=20
don't remember when you said your test was, and I know that listening =
and=20
reading are different, but if the students are being tested on their =
ability to=20
retell minute details, then you should check into the methods introduced =
in the=20
book Read and Retell. I forget the author and do not have it at home. =
However,=20
it is simply a book with a model of how to get students to retell texts =
that=20
they have read in an accurate and detailed manner. It also has many =
different=20
texts from different genres that you may copy from the book to use in=20
instruction. It would seem to be helpful to your cause.<BR></P>
<P>First Steps series by Heineman has a wonderful section on =
"Notemaking" I have=20
found it to be very clear and useful to our 3-5th grade =
students.<BR><BR>I found=20
this web site which isn't great but it is something...<BR><U><FONT =
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size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
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NT=20
size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notephone.html</U></FONT><FON=
T=20
size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/jansenart.html</U></FONT><FON=
T=20
size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>http://teacher.scholastic.com/lessonrepro/lessonplans/theme/res2=
3.htm</U></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2><BR>There must be books out there by Scholastic on this because =
I know we=20
get lots of study books in our library for kids...That's a tough =
assignement. Do=20
they understand that kids learn differently and some kids might like to =
use a=20
cassette player..? </P>
<P>When I was working in elementary, I did a 1/2 year unit in fifth =
grade and a=20
briefer version in grade 4 on note taking. The end product was a state =
parade=20
'float' which was simply a visual display using a specified number of =
facts from=20
all the notes taken. We started in grade 5, by selecting a 'favorite' =
state,=20
then I used info I pre-selected from which they took notes (before which =
I gave=20
note-taking lessons)...write neatly, in phrases, on unlined paper but =
stressing=20
writing or printing straight, accuracy, noting the used source =
(copyright=20
date,publisher, title, author, page(s) used...notes taken from each =
pre-selected=20
info sheet was on a separate sheet...it was all very prescribed and =
supervized=20
by me...until near the end they had to use ANYY public library resource =
they=20
wished...then they evenutally wrote a paper. The note taking sheets I =
called=20
"Snoopy sheets" because they had a picture of Snoopy at the top. They =
were=20
regular ditto paper, cut in strips to give the air of note cards...but =
kept in=20
binder or library folder so as not to lose them. It was great fun esp. =
because=20
of the end product which was only incidental to me but loved by parents =
and=20
others who saw our long 'parade' of 'floats'....this was near New years =
eve so I=20
keyed in on the parades before football games.<BR></P>
<P>I teach note taking all the time to my elementary students. The best =
way is=20
to model for them. Find a selection that you think will work. Make =
copies for=20
each child. I have photocopied and typed selections into the computer =
and=20
printed it out. Explain what note taking is. show them the article that =
they are=20
reading and what type of information that they are looking for. Put =
these topic=20
on the boardd leaving room to take note. read the first paragraph out =
loud,=20
stop, question do you read anything that fits the topics you are looking =
for.=20
Write the appropriate notes on the board. Read the next paragraph ask =
the=20
students if they see anything to take notes on. Keep going until they=20
understand. Make sure to point out that you are note writing sentences. =
by the=20
end of the lesson they should be able to do it them selves. I have =
taught=20
notetaking to 2nd graders. Think about it,, take it step by step, think =
out loud=20
why you are taking that note.</P>
<P>Nancy O'Donnell<BR>Library Media Specialist<BR>Theodore Roosevelt =
Elementary=20
School<BR>Kenmore, New York 14217<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:ODonn247@email.msn.com">ODonn247@email.msn.com</A></P>
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