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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF3E75.BF479B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Part 3: I am not from your state, and really have no idea what the expectation = on the students is for retell. However, I do have a couple of thoughts. = If they help, please use them. If not, hit the delete button with my = blessing. :-) 1) The 4th grade teachers should model for you first. Since I am = currently a 4th grade teacher dealing with Texas state testing, I can = say that.=20 2) I use a summary method for fiction with my children. If all the = students have to do is retell the basic storyline, then this will help. = It is called SCAO. The S stands for setting, the C for characters, the A = for action, and the O for outcome (with fables this will include the = lesson or moral). We use this system to teach storyline and to help our = students write one paragraph summaries of stories by writing one to = three sentences for each part of the summary acronym. 3) I don't remember when you said your test was, and I know that = listening and reading are different, but if the students are being = tested on their ability to retell minute details, then you should check = into the methods introduced in the book Read and Retell. I forget the = author and do not have it at home. However, it is simply a book with a = model of how to get students to retell texts that they have read in an = accurate and detailed manner. It also has many different texts from = different genres that you may copy from the book to use in instruction. = It would seem to be helpful to your cause. First Steps series by Heineman has a wonderful section on "Notemaking" I = have found it to be very clear and useful to our 3-5th grade students. I found this web site which isn't great but it is something... http://www.learningexchange.net/study.html http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notetaking.html http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notephone.html http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/jansenart.html http://teacher.scholastic.com/lessonrepro/lessonplans/theme/res23.htm There must be books out there by Scholastic on this because I know we = get lots of study books in our library for kids...That's a tough = assignement. Do they understand that kids learn differently and some = kids might like to use a cassette player..?=20 When I was working in elementary, I did a 1/2 year unit in fifth grade = and a briefer version in grade 4 on note taking. The end product was a = state parade 'float' which was simply a visual display using a specified = number of facts from all the notes taken. We started in grade 5, by = selecting a 'favorite' state, then I used info I pre-selected from which = they took notes (before which I gave note-taking lessons)...write = neatly, in phrases, on unlined paper but stressing writing or printing = straight, accuracy, noting the used source (copyright date,publisher, = title, author, page(s) used...notes taken from each pre-selected info = sheet was on a separate sheet...it was all very prescribed and = supervized by me...until near the end they had to use ANYY public = library resource they wished...then they evenutally wrote a paper. The = note taking sheets I called "Snoopy sheets" because they had a picture = of Snoopy at the top. They were regular ditto paper, cut in strips to = give the air of note cards...but kept in binder or library folder so as = not to lose them. It was great fun esp. because of the end product which = was only incidental to me but loved by parents and others who saw our = long 'parade' of 'floats'....this was near New years eve so I keyed in = on the parades before football games. I teach note taking all the time to my elementary students. The best way = is to model for them. Find a selection that you think will work. Make = copies for each child. I have photocopied and typed selections into the = computer and printed it out. Explain what note taking is. show them the = article that they are reading and what type of information that they are = looking for. Put these topic on the boardd leaving room to take note. = read the first paragraph out loud, stop, question do you read anything = that fits the topics you are looking for. Write the appropriate notes on = the board. Read the next paragraph ask the students if they see anything = to take notes on. Keep going until they understand. Make sure to point = out that you are note writing sentences. by the end of the lesson they = should be able to do it them selves. I have taught notetaking to 2nd = graders. Think about it,, take it step by step, think out loud why you = are taking that note. Nancy O'Donnell Library Media Specialist Theodore Roosevelt Elementary School Kenmore, New York 14217 ODonn247@email.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF3E75.BF479B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> <P>Part 3:</P> <P>I am not from your state, and really have no idea what the = expectation on the=20 students is for retell. However, I do have a couple of thoughts. If they = help,=20 please use them. If not, hit the delete button with my blessing. = :-)<BR>1) The=20 4th grade teachers should model for you first. Since I am currently a = 4th grade=20 teacher dealing with Texas state testing, I can say that. <BR>2) I use a = summary=20 method for fiction with my children. If all the students have to do is = retell=20 the basic storyline, then this will help. It is called SCAO. The S = stands for=20 setting, the C for characters, the A for action, and the O for outcome = (with=20 fables this will include the lesson or moral). We use this system to = teach=20 storyline and to help our students write one paragraph summaries of = stories by=20 writing one to three sentences for each part of the summary = acronym.<BR>3) I=20 don't remember when you said your test was, and I know that listening = and=20 reading are different, but if the students are being tested on their = ability to=20 retell minute details, then you should check into the methods introduced = in the=20 book Read and Retell. I forget the author and do not have it at home. = However,=20 it is simply a book with a model of how to get students to retell texts = that=20 they have read in an accurate and detailed manner. It also has many = different=20 texts from different genres that you may copy from the book to use in=20 instruction. It would seem to be helpful to your cause.<BR></P> <P>First Steps series by Heineman has a wonderful section on = "Notemaking" I have=20 found it to be very clear and useful to our 3-5th grade = students.<BR><BR>I found=20 this web site which isn't great but it is something...<BR><U><FONT = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>http://www.learningexchange.net/study.html</U></FONT><FONT=20 size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notetaking.html</U></FONT><FO= NT=20 size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/notephone.html</U></FONT><FON= T=20 size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>http://www.big6.com/action/Lessons/jansenart.html</U></FONT><FON= T=20 size=3D2><BR></FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2>http://teacher.scholastic.com/lessonrepro/lessonplans/theme/res2= 3.htm</U></FONT><FONT=20 size=3D2><BR>There must be books out there by Scholastic on this because = I know we=20 get lots of study books in our library for kids...That's a tough = assignement. Do=20 they understand that kids learn differently and some kids might like to = use a=20 cassette player..? </P> <P>When I was working in elementary, I did a 1/2 year unit in fifth = grade and a=20 briefer version in grade 4 on note taking. The end product was a state = parade=20 'float' which was simply a visual display using a specified number of = facts from=20 all the notes taken. We started in grade 5, by selecting a 'favorite' = state,=20 then I used info I pre-selected from which they took notes (before which = I gave=20 note-taking lessons)...write neatly, in phrases, on unlined paper but = stressing=20 writing or printing straight, accuracy, noting the used source = (copyright=20 date,publisher, title, author, page(s) used...notes taken from each = pre-selected=20 info sheet was on a separate sheet...it was all very prescribed and = supervized=20 by me...until near the end they had to use ANYY public library resource = they=20 wished...then they evenutally wrote a paper. The note taking sheets I = called=20 "Snoopy sheets" because they had a picture of Snoopy at the top. They = were=20 regular ditto paper, cut in strips to give the air of note cards...but = kept in=20 binder or library folder so as not to lose them. It was great fun esp. = because=20 of the end product which was only incidental to me but loved by parents = and=20 others who saw our long 'parade' of 'floats'....this was near New years = eve so I=20 keyed in on the parades before football games.<BR></P> <P>I teach note taking all the time to my elementary students. The best = way is=20 to model for them. Find a selection that you think will work. Make = copies for=20 each child. I have photocopied and typed selections into the computer = and=20 printed it out. Explain what note taking is. show them the article that = they are=20 reading and what type of information that they are looking for. Put = these topic=20 on the boardd leaving room to take note. read the first paragraph out = loud,=20 stop, question do you read anything that fits the topics you are looking = for.=20 Write the appropriate notes on the board. Read the next paragraph ask = the=20 students if they see anything to take notes on. Keep going until they=20 understand. Make sure to point out that you are note writing sentences. = by the=20 end of the lesson they should be able to do it them selves. I have = taught=20 notetaking to 2nd graders. Think about it,, take it step by step, think = out loud=20 why you are taking that note.</P> <P>Nancy O'Donnell<BR>Library Media Specialist<BR>Theodore Roosevelt = Elementary=20 School<BR>Kenmore, New York 14217<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:ODonn247@email.msn.com">ODonn247@email.msn.com</A></P> <P> </P> <P> </P></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF3E75.BF479B20-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=