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From: Corey Hansen <Corey_Hansen@ashwaubenon.k12.wi.us> 999 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:05:29 GMT From: Molly Clark <mcclark@ALDUS.NORTHNET.ORG> Subject: HIT:Those that be 30 min. prep Here is the original question, followed by over thirty responses: ---- Question ---- I am curious about how those of you that are a fixed 30 minute prep work in a world that advocates flex planning? Do you still meet with teachers to schedule what will be done for that 30 minutes, or do you use your own curriculum? ---- Responses ---- I have only been in a library position for one year today. I did not even have any idea that collaboration was being done because I have never been in a district with a library media teacher before. After starting I heard about wonderful things being done with collaboration. I do have 30 periods with about 900 students per week. I have tried to start collaboration but do not find the teachers to be very receptive. I think this is both because of the time involved and the fact that they are already overwhelmed. I do ask the teacher for a copy of their yearly plan and that allows me to try to match what they do. It isn't the best but it is what I have to work with. I am taking classes from Dr. David Loertscher and he tells me to just have the students do Sustain Silent Reading during their 30 minutes prep. I told him I would lose my job and he told me I wouldn't. I think I'll wait until I have tenure to take up that fight. In the mean time I'll continue my curriculum and try to encourage more collaboration. I would love to hear how others make it work better. ---- I work for Houston (TX) ISD, and we are still in the stone age of library scheduling. Actually, I just started at a new school where I am only covering 2 planning periods per day, but my old school was totaly fixed-schedule. Our planning times are 45 minutes long. And no, I never came up with a solution for the collaborative planning problem; my planning time is during their reading block, and during their planning time, I have their kids in the library. I have tried getting them to give me written notice of their upcoming units so I could plan something to go along with them, but I never get them. You can imagine how popular pre- or post-school planning sessions would be. So I have ended up going with the flow and just teaching my own curriculum at my own pace, which doesn't have the impact on the kids that collaboratively-planned units would. If anybody comes up with a brilliant solution, I would LOVE to hear it. In the meantime, I will continue to just talk to my "lunch buddies" and catch folks in the hall, etc. . . ---- I have 30 minute classes with my K-6 students once every six days and most of the time I teach my own curriculum. ---- Oh wishful thinking those not far off days of 30 minute prep. We are now required to provide 60 minutes of teacher prep. Plus I serve two schools. I have only a very little unscheduled time and I am supposed to use it to do that pesky library work but still end up having classes in when they need to do research. At my bigger school the library is used for music on days I am gone. In those glorious days of only 30 min prep time and full time librarians I used to be able to squeeze in enough flex time that I could have several projects happening each week. I am still committed to working with teachers and curriculum though in my current school I am working with mainly the 4th and 5th grade teachers. Part of that is time and part is the nature of this particular school and part is the fact that the closer I get to retirement the less energy I pour into my passions and cooperative planning is a passion unrequited. Hello I send out a monthly newsletter with a place to fill in anything they want me to comver or any specific needs for their classes in that month. Some will discuss it and some send a note and others do nothing. I let them know what I will be doing at any rate. I have a pilot program in grade six and meet once a month with those teachers, but that is a completely different situation. ---- I am librarian at a K-4 building of 450+ students. I see all students by class for 50 minutes each week. On Friday, I repeat a previous day's schedule. For instance, I see Monday's kids on Friday also. If a grade level has five teachers instead of four, the 5th class is divided among the other 4 teachers. So this year in 3rd grade, I have one teacher's full class plus 1/4 of the extra teacher plus the emh students. Total for some classes is 30! For 3rd & 4th grades, I teach for app. 25 minutes using a district approved library skills curriculum. Then the students have 25" for book check-out. 1st & 2nd follow similar schedule except instead of heavy-duty library skills, I have a 25" story time. Kindergarten classes are divided into two 25" minute sessions, once before lunch and once just before the last bell. All of this instruction occurs without a library assistant. I do have parent volunteers come in to put away books and do odd chores. When I have time to plan & organize projects for them!! Planning time with teachers???!!! I check with 3rd & 4th grade teachers at lunch time. That is when I am not doing lunch room duty Monday-Thursday and noon playground duty Monday-Friday. It's been a long day today! To add to all of this "prep" time, on this Friday, when the fall party is scheduled, the special area teachers (library, p.e., art, and music) will change their schedule so every classroom teacher has equal prep time... 25 minutes for K-4. Now that will really be quality instructional time! ---- I am 40 minute prep for all classes once a week and also hold 10 small group sessions as needed. When do I do my admin stuff?---at home, of course! For my prep classes, I follow my curriculum but I also have a timetable for what units they are studying so that I can try to integrate what they are studying with my lessons. For instance, 4th grade is studying Hispanic culture--I did a lesson regarding Mexican celebrations. During third grade's deserts unit, I have them do a research project on desert animals using several different resources. It takes six or so sessions by the time we go through lessons on the different resources, etc. but that's what happens when you only see them once a week. I tell the teachers that they may take the organizer I have the kids do and turn it into a factual paragraph assignment or whatever if they wish. Last year they did that and kept it for the students' portfolios. You will of course, have some teachers who do understand and advocate flex schedule and integrated lessons, and you will, because of that, end up doing some integrated stuff with those teacher's classes. So, in answer to your question, I just pay attention to what the grades are doing and if I can fit my skills lessons into something that fits, I do it. Do I like working this way---NO! But I don't have a choice. I love my school and the kids and the staff--but I would leave for a flexible schedule because it allows us to do what we really should be doing and that is not teaching skills in isolation! ---- I am in a situation where I provide prep time for the teachers. I usually just do my own curriculum, although I keep trying to get the teachers to let me know what they are working on. The K teacher will send out a monthly list of the big topics she is covering and I will try to coordinate something with that. Sometimes other teachers will ask me to do lessons on particular topics such as using the library catalog, guide words, etc., usually if there is something in the reading book that they think I would be better at than they are. ---- Yes I do and I hate it. The teachers just want me to take their kids and they don't care what I do with them. This is my twentieth year. Is there any hope? ---- I am a fixed 30 min. prep time for my K-4 teachers. I have been promised for years that we were "just about ready" to become totally flex, and then the administrator leaves and I have to "break in" a new one-I'm on my 4th in 5 years--and thinking seriously about retirement as I'm weary of the battle. ---- The 30 min. that covers planning time is from my curriculum-but mostly consists of literature appreciation and check in/check out. Actual information skills come when the teacher brings the students down during our breaks (known as "flex time"--ha, ha. ---- I only have 22 classes of 30 minutes each during a whole week. Therefore, I give a 15 minute lesson or read a story or something related to our library goals and then let the kids do their weekly checkout. Since I have so much unscheduled library time available, I work with the teachers to bring in the classes for an hour or so every few weeks to do a really big project (like Missouri biography reports, or life in the coral reef, or whatever their curriculum dictates). I love having the time available to do this and I also like the regularly scheduled checkout time, plus time to give pointers about things like writing contests coming up, reading contests the school is having, Boolean logic practice with keyword searching on the OPAC, stuff like that which would just interfere with a teachers' time if it was ALL flex schedule. I like having them to myself for conducting the business of libraries. The teachers are great to work with and they sure appreciate the 30 minutes off each week. ---- Corey: I meet with 22 classes of 3-5 grade students for a fixed 40 min. session per week. It's too difficult to coordinate with what the teachers are doing in there classrooms. I have too much to teach regarding basic lib. skills. Hope this helps! ---- I'm a k-12 media specialist with k-6 and 7-12 lmc's to work with. I'm half day in each building with an aide at each building. We also have a tech. coordin. who is at the buildings opposite from me. I have my own curriculum which is coordinated with what the teachers do in the classroom. I have set things that i teach at each level, but can stop and go according to what is going on in classroom. I usually meet with the teachers after school, noon, or recess time to tell them what I'm doing next for lessons and what is going on in the classroom. We do plan projects together at 4th, 5th, 6th gr. levels. I've tied my curriculum to their needs most of the time. Still I get in the skills i need to. For the 3-6 grades, we often don't have checkout time, just skill time. The teachers send them to LMC when the students have down time to check out books. The teachers can also sign up for LMC time when I'm not teaching a class. ---- I am an LC director in a k-5 school that has a fixed schedule of 30 minute periods. It is release time for the teachers, and most of them have no interest in doing anything with me about what is to be done during that period. We have developed a very thorough curriculum of story hours, library skills, research skills, and literature awareness that we move the students through. Of course, when the teacher does request something specific, we do our best to accomodate. My upper grade teachers do sign up for books talks on a regular basis. ---- I am a thirty minute prep. We have no time to plan with teachers, so the curriculum is ours. Definitely not the ideal, but don't see any change for us in the near future. ---- I work in a high school library and also have a K-1 library in another building. I have always had a 30 minute library time with each class (9 in all this year). For me this works very well because that way I am only gone from the high school library two afternoons a week. In my library class I try and have a 10 minute lesson (book care, procedures, parts of book, etc.), 10 minute story time, 10 minute checkout. I have a library assistant that is at the elementary school fulltime, although she also has additional duties. If teachers need certain materials we can usually take care of that with no problem. Quite honestly I have not in my three years there ever had a teacher come ask me to cover anything particular in library class. However I have a good rapport with the teachers and I think that they all know I would do anything I could to help them. ---- I have my library classes during the teacher's prep period, and I find it has its advantages and disadvantages. Having been doing this for 25 years, I know that there have been times when being the prep period has saved my job. (The union would grieve--and win--any attempt to take away a prep period). I do have a curriculum to teach, although I do try to incorporate as much as possible what the teachers are doing in the classroom. When the curriculum was written, the librarians took themes from classroom curricular units as the focus of our curriculum. For example, many of the skills taught in our fourth grade relate to their social studies themes of New York State and the Hudson River. In addition, New York State has instituted many new assessments, and our curriculum addresses some of the needs created by these assessments. It's kind of nice not having to spend a lot of my time running after teachers, trying to coordinate projects--I know when I will see the students and can plan accordingly. On the other hand, I definitely miss out on some of the "spur of the moment" research, and teachers don't necessarily look at me as a curriculum source for each and every unit. I have worked with teachers on various units, and will continue to do so. There is such great satisfaction when you collaborate with a teacher on a unit and you end up with a successful project. ---- I do not meet with the teachers. I plan to do whatever I think needs to be covered. ---- I am an elementary library media specialists who has 17 classes on a fixed 35 minute schedule on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Most of the time I read and do activities that are library related. I love to read different versions of the same stories or even follow-up with a video of the same story and compare and contrast the stories. There are times when the classroom teacher asks for a special program to follow-up her activities. I do all kinds of instruction (Search Plus-Follett, Internet, Dewey Decimal). I use our Kentucky Educational Television programs (Tomes and Talismans and Media Mania) with fourth and fifth grades. No one is allowed to disturb me on these days as our principal feels my instructional time is important. On Monday afternoons, all day Wednesdays and Friday mornings we have check-out. The teachers come with their children to this and stay as long as necessary. Others may come and go as necessary. On Monday mornings and Friday afternoons, I am resource for the teachers--pulling materials to go along with classroom activities. They put a wants sheet in my mailbox by Friday morning and I fill their requests. I am also the School Technology Coordinator--whenever I have a free moment I am working on technology related problems. I also have a co-worker and students that can help in this. ---- We have our own curriculum - very rushed. ---- I see thirty classes a week for 35 minutes each. I have one "library maintenence" period a week, and prep and lunch. Not a lot of time for extra classes! I have a curriculum which I must . I gladly trailor what I am doin to help the teachers but am rarely asked. We have New Jersey Core Curriculm Library Standards that must be covered through out the year. I am in a school of 600 first, second, and third graders. ---- I'm sort of in that situation. We are supposed to be working toward flex scheduling and to that end the schedule that we have right now is that the fixed time is done with the clerks (I have 4 buildings) for check out and then the teachers are required to come to the 1/2 hour time with me for the "skills". There is supposed to be some collaboration, but we don't do much. I usually plan the lessons and the teacher sits in and corrects papers, etc. unless I need him or her to help with monitoring students. I don't think that this sends a very good message to the students about the importance of the library program or what I'm teaching. ---- I am in a K-6 elementary school, and I am the 40 minute prep when the kids visit the library. I do not have time to meet regularly with the teachers on any grade level, but informally learn of their class projects and sometimes I'm able to include them in my library lesson planning. I have developed a more informal plan with the 6th grades: they have a scheduled 30 minute book exchange time, then access to the library any time they need it. My 5th & 6th graders have open access, even when I have classes. Our library is small, so it's limited to 2 or 3 at a time if I have classes, but otherwise, they can come and go as they need to. Also, I do work directly with the 6th grade teachers to provide library instruction as directly enhances their Soc. St., Science, or ELA projects. This is all probably not useful...but it's where I am! ---- I have fixed 45 minute schedule. I try to plan with teacher when I can but otherwise I follow the districts Benchmarks or standards and make sure I teach those skills related to libraries. It is not the best plan but I do seem to pull a few more teachers in each year to planning even if we have to do it on our own time. ---- I am on a fixed, 40 minute schedule. I am basically on my own where curriculum is concerned-- I've begged and pleaded with the teachers to at least jot down what they're doing in their classrooms so we could tie it in--to no avail. Carol Kuhlthau has a book about library skills by grade level, and there is also a series of library skill books (can't think of the name) that I use to help plan the lessons...at least we can learn how to use the library!! ---- I use a fixed schedule and use both my own curriculum and the grade level curriculum. It is quite a mess sometime. ---- Generally I get teacher's planning "help" via a memo that I send out each month... asking what "themes" and curricula will be covered. I try to coordinate "my" curriculum with whatever they're doing. This doesn't always work, of course... and we STILL get the occasional teacher who drops off her class with the cheerful message, "Oh... they're doing biographies this week. Meant to tell you." Grrr. It's not fun! Collaboration? What's that? Sigh. ---- I'm the 10-40 minutes prep time for twelve teachers. They don't give a rip what I do as long as they get a break from the kids. I generally try to integrate somewhat; but I'm too overwhelmed to do much of that. IN a perfect world, we'd work together; but not in my reality! ---- Yes, I am a 30 minute prep time for my teachers....In fact, we do a rotation for an hour an half...P.E., Library, Computer Lab or Music, Computer Lab, Library. I take all of my kids twice a week, including Kindergarten. Needless to say, I have a busy schedule and have being doing this for a long time. It would be very hard to change. Our Dept. of Education mandates 200 hours for prep time a week. There is no money to hire people to come in an do the prep....plus, they do need to be using that 200 hours doing something constructive. I have skills and activities for 30 minutes once a week and then a check-out period for 30 min. I do not get time to plan with my teachers, but I try to keep up with what they are doing. It would help me a lot to plan with them. I teach library skills, abc order, author studies, reference skills, reading skill....story elements, I tell, draw, cut stories....You name it I do it We are a K-4 school with approx 300 kids...we've had as many as 320. It varies! Let me know what you hear about this. There may be some stuff in the archives. We have talked about this before. ---- I am on a fixed schedule at two elementary schools. I meet with teachers RARELY.... I work closely with a few teachers at each school by e-mailing ideas about projects we can do together. I teach my own curriculum and seldom know what is going on in the classrooms. It is not the best way to have a successful library program. ---- since i also do 35 minutes of tech time in the computer lab in addition to 35 minutes library time, in my next life, i would like to find time to plan units with teachers that involve long term research units/themes where research is coordinated in the library and with computers and presentations are done w/ computer software. maybe when we move to the 25 hour day??! ---- I have the 30 min. prep scenario, for the most part. I'm also just getting my endorsement, and am in classes through distance learning at the U. of WA, and am finding all of the info geared to flex time as the ideal. I have one teacher who has agreed to go with just one 45 min block per week, rather than the two 30 min., as all the others have. I'm working on reducing at least the 4th and 5th grade levels to the once per week, 45 min block. I have been coordinating in as much as possible, by dropping in on Fridays, checking at least for themes, areas I can enrich, projects coming up, and it has worked well. I go around with a clipboard and take notes, then come back and plan my lessons for the next week. For K-3, I've been doing mostly literature readings related to class themes, or just favorites of mine if there is no real link possibility. For 4th and 5th, I've been doing some lessons on "trash and treasure" (see the Big 6 website for lesson plans) for helping them research and put findings in their own words. My 5th are rather traditional teachers, and want me just to lay out materials for their students to "come back with two facts about Native Americans" reports. Ashwaubenon School District Green Bay, Wisconsin U.S.A =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. 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