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Thanks to everyone who responded to this request. The concensus of those responding are seriously looking at adopting a default appproach to the student use of the internet; however, some are considering this with caution. Responses are listed below: Be sure to read what Walter Minkel said about them in last month's (March) SLJ. In my daughter's high school they included a copy of the AUP with her registration papers. There was a line on the "official" registration form -- sign if you DON'T want your child to have internet access. There are 2200 students in the school, only 4 don't have permission -- easy to keep track of for teachers, librarians, and lab aides. Don't know if I'll have to re-sign (or not sign) in subsequent years. Obviously, there are no ID cards to display at the computer terminals. In my school we still "fight" with students to get them to display their IDs. We have a large collection of lost IDs (students pay $2.00 to replace a card); students in the library "with a teacher and class" don't have to display their ID, others do (that's hard to minotor!!); students "borrow" cards from others (not even bothering to get the right race or gender); students hassle us over hassling them; students attempt to forge parent's signatures; students try to get their administrator/dean to write an OK on a pass to the lab (how to I really know how really wrote that "OK")...the list goes on! I've suggested my school adopt my daughter's policy... I think you read my mind. I wanted to know similar information. We have a filter on our system and I am inclined to go the route of permission is assumed unless otherwise denied. The policy you describe is what I have been advocating for years. The guidelines for Internet use should be in the student handbook. All students would be able to use the Internet unless they are restricted. One of the last issues of School Library Journal has an article about this type of policy. I'd say by doing it the way you suggest you are headed in the right direction. In the past we have gone on the assumption that unless we have a "no" from parents, the students have permission to use the Internet and the school has permission to use pictures and names of students for public relations purposes. This is a dangerous assumption, as we have found out the hard way. Our new policy is to require that every student return an AUP and permission form signed by both student and parent. The permission form has several sections: permission to use pictures and/or names for purposes other than web sites, permission to post pictures and/or names on the school web sites, and permission to use the Internet for educational purposes. Parents may say "yes" or "no" to any or all. In my middle school (I'm not sure how it is done in the other buildings), a loose-leaf binder is kept in the office with names of all students and check boxes for the various kinds of permission. Periodically, a list of those who have <not> turned in forms or been given permission is printed and sent to staff members who have the need to know. Students who do not return forms are continually bugged to get them in, even if their parents will not give permission. We're down to about 5 students out of 400. If a special need for permission arises, we will contact the parent by phone and ask them to consider giving permission for a particular use. Most of them do. Our server is smart enough to know which students have internet permission and which do not. We have very little trouble with students using each other's accounts, since that results in ISS for both parties. If I didn't have that system, then I would insist on a system like what you already use. Every teacher would have to know (on sight) every student who did not have Internet permission if you went with your proposed system, and that would work only for very small schools. I assume that you operate on a "no card, no internet" basis, so that a student can't just say he forgot his card. Maybe I'm just an old fuddy-duddy, but the reason we can operate with all students watching videos unless the parent specifically requests that their child not watch a particular one is because the videos have been selected (and presumably previewed) by competent people. Who selects and previews the internet? Another argument for requiring parents to specifically give permission for their children to use the internet is that the parents are still in charge of their children. There are many good resources available only via the internet, but there is also much that is junk (or worse). Let the parents decide whether the good outweighs the bad, or the bad outweighs the good. My own children use the internet, but only at home while a parent is handy. The computer is where everyone can see it, and we have a large monitor. They do not have permission to use the internet at the public library (which surprised the "librarians" there) because there is no supervision or filtering. For that matter, there really isn't any knowledge, either, since the "librarians" are really just clerks, and not one of them knows anything about the internet. By the way, you might want to check out Clifford Stoll's books. He is not a fan of computers in the classrooms. He spoke at our MASL Spring Conference Tuesday, and I really liked what he had to say. We used to require a card, and now the AUP is part of the registration packet. It is up to the office staff to make sure that all students have a signed form and /or if the parent doesn't want a student to use a computer. Easy for us in the library, but a headache for them We are hoping to go into the direction of only identifying those who have not signed also. We are including our AUP as part of the student handbook that is given to all students and which students and parents are to sign as having read. Part of that AUP will be something that tells the parents we need a signed note from them if they do not want their student to have access to the Internet. We are going the latter way next year. Each student will receive the handbook. In it will be a form to be returned if they refuse access to their children. The number of refusals are so small now that it is not worth the paperwork hassle for file the approvals. We hope that this will also encourage parents to read the entire handbook. 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