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Thank you all for your responses to my question about students printing entire articles from CD ROM encyclopedias. Here is a compilation, with snippets of the actual text, of some of the responses I received: Copy and Paste: Can you get the kids to do a cut and paste of the relevant parts into Word document (or whatever you use) so they have a (shorter) hard copy that they can mark (either underlining or highlighting)? We have a few computers in the library. One of the problems I experience is that where I may have 10 sets of encyclopedias (in various vintages) I only had 2 computers kids could use for research. So my kids didn't have time to read a long article and take notes. So I taught them to highlight the sections they wanted and to copy it to a word processing page. They were allowed to print out the word proc. document. This saved paper, and made them be a little selective. I also met with the classroom teacher and we both told the students that any info printed out had to be put into their own words and rewritten in their report just as if they had used the book form of ency. Charge for printing or have students bring their own paper: We charge our students to print from the Internet or from cd roms--but if they select what they really NEED and paste it into a word processor for printing, we let them print for free. This may not eliminate plagiarism, but it at least gives them a little less to work with! Since it is the library printer, and at our school everyone "buys" their own paper (with school funds) the teacher has to send the student with paper if they want them to print anything out. Get rid of the printers: You could always remove the printers.....can't print when there isn't a printer... Change the nature of the assignment: ...My position is it is the nature of the assignment that fosters the copy and paste mentality. If the assignment requires turning in notes, outline, draft as well as finished product some of the problem is solved. Even better if the assignment requires the student to do something with the information besides spit it back than copying becomes a non-issue. If instead of doing a report on a capitol city they are asked to generate a list of features shared by many capitol cities it changes the research process.... Allow students to print the entire article, being sure to teach about copyright law, notetaking, and plagiarism: We too have kids who want to copy articles, and we have never made an issue of it. I am one of those who doesn't want to sit and take notes on something in the library -- I want to make a xerox and take it home, where I can read it, study it, and digest it in comfort and at my leisure. Since we allow this privilege to adults, why would we treat our students any differently? We work on teaching copyright laws, and we teach (or try to) the difference between research and plagiarism -- but in the final analysis, the responsiblity for copying or not copying rests with the student. Providing information does not mean we can control how it is used. Several other suggestions: ...I'm trying to encourage students to use printouts or photocopies as starting points. When they do a project I ask them to hand all their notes printouts and photocopies in along with the final work.... Just a quick comment on length of articles... Before they print, they should look at the scroll bar at the side of the window. The smaller the bar, the larger the article. It's a good way to tell if an article is too long to print in it's entirety.... ...our rule is that you don't print out encyclopedia articles.... ... we allow students to print from several CD-ROM products including World Book. The procedure we teach is for students to select paragraphs rather than print the entire article. When the paper is turned in to the teacher, all print outs must be stapled to the final draft so that the teacher can compare and comment on paraphrasing. Some teachers include paraphrasing in their rubric.... I also worry about this because I know that they copy word for word. I have come up with an idea to help circumvent some of it. I am on a MAC. If the teacher has given them an outline I put the outline in the computer as a simple text document. The students copy and paste into the outline. This kind of forces them to do a little thinking and reading.... Again, thank you all for your responses, and I hope this helps some of us make printing decisions with our students. Jan Birney, who probably used up far too much of your bandwidth with this HIT, and who begs your patience, as this is her first HIT. ===== Jan Birney, Computer Specialist Stratford Catholic Regional School System Stratford, CT 06615 stmark6614@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=