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A couple of weeks ago I posted the following target question concerning recessed monitors and the ideal computer station. I had planned to post a hit but got sideswiped as my secretary was out all last week and not replaced. Then I missed Monday. So at last; here are the hits. I thanked each person individually but I'd like to thank everyone again for replying and sharing their thoughts! Donna Walters Media Specialist Ben Franklin Middle School 605 N. Campbell St. Valparaiso, IN 46385 PH: 219-531-3024 x210 Fax: 219-531-3026 dwatlers@imail.valpo.k12.in.us ORIGINAL QUESTION: I'm looking for the ideal "computer station" setup for my office when we remodel. I have bifocals and consequently, if the monitor is too high or too low, I get a lot of neckstrain and headaches. Has anyone used the recessed computer stations where the monitor is down under an antiglare glass? Or what have you found to be the ideal computer setup? Where'd you purchase? I did search the archives and didn't see this discussed. So I hope I'm not repeating. I'll post a hit if there's interest! REPLIES: I'm looking for the ideal "computer station" setup for my office when > we remodel. I have bifocals and consequently, if the monitor is too > high or too low, I get a lot of neckstrain and headaches. > > Has anyone used the recessed computer stations where the monitor is > down under an antiglare glass? Or what have you found to be the ideal > computer setup? Where'd you purchase? I did search the archives and > didn't see this discussed. So I hope I'm not repeating. I'll post a > hit if there's interest! Boy have I got a desk for you! We just installed a new computer lab with furniture from NOVA Solutions. The kids & teachers love it!! We originally saw/used it at our Regional Education Service Center where we used the same furniture for _6_ days of training with no eyestrain, no backaches, no headaches!! So we bought it for our kids. We ordered ours from an office furniture sales company in Houston, but I'm sure you can find somewhere closer <-g->. We purchased their K-12 [88 Series] furniture but they also make several different types of typical office computer desks. Check out their "Products" page. Nova Solutions at http://www.novadesk.com/ Corporate headquarters is in Effingham, IL 1-800-739-6682 Their website lists their sales representatives. Looks like the IN rep is the Stephan Group in Glendale, OH (513-772-5282 -- I just want to warn you! Demco has a computer desk, but don't buy it!!! It is expensive, but cheaply made. I ordered one to see it. We were thinking about putting those in our small computer lab, which is located off the library. It was called something like "Euroscape." Anyhow, the company did take it back, but I had to pay $69.00 for the shipping!!! If you don't have astigmatism, but just the usual need for magnification that comes to us all as we "mature" (!!<ggg>) get your optician to tell you what power you need for using the computer (monitor should be at a location which will allow you to have a down angle of 10 degrees) and then get "readers" at the local drug store. I have a prescription for my bifocals of 1.75+ for distance and 3.25+ for reading. And the intermediate value was 2.75+, which I used to use both for the computer and playing the organ (now THERE'S a place where you have to look up -- wish the music rack were lower down -- but I use a large-print hymnal that makes life a bit easier!). But after a while (4-5 yrs. or so) it's gotten so that I just use the 3.25+ for everything other than driving (use 1.75 for that -- I CAN drive without glasses, but it's sure a LOT clearer when I use them!) In addition, have a GOOD chair which will give you good lumbar support and support for your arms. And make it adjustable so that your forearms will be parallel to the floor when you have your hands on the keyboard, and you can have your feet flat (or maybe slightly slanted on a support). I used to have this at home, BUT I found, because I am short, in order to see the screen I had to constantly lean forward and stretch my neck. Consequently, many trips to the chiropractor. I didn't like it. I would suggest going to a store that specializes in office furniture and try out some different situations. My desk at home is specially made for computers. The monitor sits in a well that is angled down into the desk, but is above the surface of the desk. Works for me. I have used the recessed screens but not for a long enough time to know if they would help you. Some of the teachers in my building have foundnd that "Piano" glasses work for them. I assume that an eye Dr. would know what you would mean by that. Good Luck! -_____________________________________________________________________ _________________ I was fortunate enough to get a desk in my "new" library (about 4 years ago now) with the Plexiglas top and the monitor mounted below the desktop. I LOVE IT. It takes a long time and much patience to get it positioned just right but after that it is a delight. My biggest problem is that I am organizationally challenged (read: messy) and I usually have to clean off my desktop before I can use the computer-a minor problem and well worth the time. Hope this helps you..... > It does sound like a good idea however, I noticed the other day that at the insurance office that the person is like me and has a habit of setting things down on the first clear space. This causes her to put things over the opening to see the screen.. I decided that I might not be able to use one due to that. So far my favorite computer tables are rolling. I like to move things too much!! This really isn't an answer to your question--only if you can't find the ideal station. I wear bifocals, but have a pair of executive bifocals with a straight line across them. The line is on the high side so that when I'm looking at the monitor, I don't have to look up at all. I have my computer on a cart nest to my desk, and I don't have the CPU under my monitor. Even with a 17 inch monitor, I still look down at it. I remember seeing an article in a tech journal about a school in Princeton, NJ that had the monitors set into a whole in desks so that students looked down at it. Good luck, Just wait until you get trifocals! Actually, it isn't that bad. My computer monitor is on an adjustable shelf, so I could set it exactly where I needed it. When I go in for eye examinations, I always have a list of the various distances for things. That helps to get the three parts of the lenses right. I don't care for the recessed monitors, because too much stuff would fall down there unless there was a clear cover, and that would just collect junk. When I was in the process of automating & spent hours at the computer, I used a desk with a recessed screen. It was wonderful. It is the desk that we use for circulation purposes-provides privacy & is safer than having it on the desk where it can be hit by students with stacks of books. The last time I got glasses, I had my glasses changed so that the bifocal area was larger, it is now easier for me to see the screens that the students use & help them when they have problems (took awhile to train my eyes/head when I was driving though). I use a recessed desk for my circulation computer, it does not have the anti- glare glass, just the monitor at an angle under a small desktop...I ordered it from an business furniture catalog, I am sorry I don't remember which one. BUT I love it, not only does it reduce strain, but I don;t have a monitor blocking my view of my "media center". It bothers the kids who don't know what I am doing because they can see me typing and staring into space. I have the same problem with bifocals. I really thought that a recessed computer in the desk would be great, but the cost! My inexpensive solution was, as I only use reading glasses rather than prescription glasses, to buy an extra pair of non-bifocal glasses that I leave by my computer and wear when I am working on the computer. Good luck. I know what a "pain" it is. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. 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