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I like to encourage use, too, but there are a couple of considerations to the issue. If it's a free-for-all let's-all-just-have-fun situation, what generally happens is that the most disruptive goof-offs gravitate to the library and attract more like themselves while driving out the students who genuinely need the library's resources and use them constructively. And the more I see of kids using computers on their own the less useful I think they are educationally. The computers become a playpen -- there's little constructive use or learning going on -- with the computers being merely toys to play with. The boys are looking for fast cars and nudes, and the girls are addicted to horoscopes and e-mail. If some of them can't get in four times a day to do e-mail they come unglued. This kind of sanctioned frivolous use makes it difficult for teachers to keep the kids on task on computers or to get constructive work from kids on computers -- not exactly what everyone had in mind when putting in computers. -- LaVerne Ireland, Librarian Live Oak High School 1505 E. Main Avenue Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408) 779-5270 (voice mail XT 425) e-mail lireland@ix.netcom.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=