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> THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3040233620_108132102_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Part 2: I found a reference to your question in Fabulous Feasts: Medieval Cookery and Ceremony by Madeleine Pelner Cosman, published by George Braziller, Inc. 1976. "Four and Twenty Singing Blackbird Pie, or Live Frog and Turtle Pie" "The nursery rhyme Sing a Song of Sixpence suggests that the blackbirds were baked in a pie to make a dainty dish to set before the King. Actually, the pies were baked before the birds were tethered within! As an ardent conservationist, I will not enourage the making of spectacle foods that might endanger the animals within the pastry. However, the Medieval method was essentially safe for the birds, some of which were raised for the very purpose of adorning either feast spectacles or, indeed, the feast trenchers. I have made such pies with wind-up, mechanical birds, which also were popular in the Middle Ages as feast adornments; medieval automata and table toys were exceedidngly popular amongst the nobility and those who aped their habits." page 204 - Fabulous Feasts The recipe follows in the book. Your question interested me. I had a look around and found this site. It suggests that 4 and 20 blackbirds were pirates! http://www.snopes.com/lost/sixpence.htm "four and twenty double dozen and the number 12 is rich in association, > traditions and supersitions > blackbirds = the hours of the day. or manorial (?) deeds or the letters of > the alphabet celebrating the first English bible > baked in a pie" in the 1500 there were recipies in how to bake a pie with > live birds > "pocketful of rye" possible that it was once a specific unit of measurement > in recipes >From The Annotated Mother Goose page 27. -- Beverly A. Nelson Media Generalist Spring Grove Public School Spring Grove, MN 55974 507-498-3221 bev.nelson@springgrove.k12.mn.us --MS_Mac_OE_3040233620_108132102_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Hit: Part 2 "four and twenty blackbirds"</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#FFFFFF"> Part 2:<BR> I found a reference to your question in <U>Fabulous Feasts: Medieval Cooker= y and Ceremony</U> by Madeleine Pelner Cosman, published by George Braziller= , Inc. 1976.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> "Four and Twenty Singing Blackbird Pie, or Live Frog and Turtle Pie&qu= ot;<BR> <BR> "The nursery rhyme Sing a Song of Sixpence suggests that the blackbird= s were baked in a pie to make a dainty dish to set before the King. Ac= tually, the pies were baked before the birds were tethered within! As an ard= ent conservationist, I will not enourage the making of spectacle foods that = might endanger the animals within the pastry. However, the Medieval method w= as essentially safe for the birds, some of which were raised for the very pu= rpose of adorning either feast spectacles or, indeed, the feast trenchers. I= have made such pies with wind-up, mechanical birds, which also were popular= in the Middle Ages as feast adornments; medieval automata and table toys we= re exceedidngly popular amongst the nobility and those who aped their habits= ." page 204 - <U>Fabulous Feasts<BR> </U><BR> The recipe follows in the book.<BR> <BR> <TT>Your question interested me. I had a look around and found this site. &= nbsp;It <BR> suggests that 4 and 20 blackbirds were pirates!<BR> <BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.snopes.com/lost/sixpence.htm<BR> </U></FONT><BR> </TT><FONT FACE=3D"Helvetica"><BR> <BR> </FONT><TT>"four and twenty double dozen and the number 12= is rich in association,<BR> > traditions and supersitions<BR> <BR> > blackbirds =3D the hours of the day. or manorial (?) deeds or the = letters of<BR> > the alphabet celebrating the first English bible<BR> <BR> > baked in a pie" in the 1500 there were recipies in how to b= ake a pie with<BR> > live birds<BR> <BR> > "pocketful of rye" possible that it was once a specifi= c unit of measurement<BR> > in recipes<BR> <BR> >From The Annotated Mother Goose page 27.<BR> <BR> </TT><BR> -- <BR> Beverly A. Nelson<BR> Media Generalist<BR> Spring Grove Public School<BR> Spring Grove, MN 55974<BR> 507-498-3221<BR> bev.nelson@springgrove.k12.mn.us<BR> </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3040233620_108132102_MIME_Part-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=