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This is the first time I've tried to do a HIT so I hope this comes through okay. Thank you for your responses so far. I'm leaning toward Reading Counts because of the greater depth of test questions which fit what our teachers expect. y ninth grade reading teacher has tried the AR program that the seventh grade uses, and has not been pleased. He feels that the questions are too picky - he can't even answer some of them. The details that the questions are made from are sometimes rather obscure. We have AR at my school and have been using it for 3 years. The tests require quite a bit of specific knowledge of the books. One student wanted to retake a test because he didn't realize he'd have to know that much about the book! You cannot have read the book a few years ago and still pass the test -- I had one student try that just last week.... In terms of content and offensiveness, this is a choice issue. If a student is offended by the language or content, then the student can choose to read another book. We haven't had a problem with this in the time we've been using AR. Nancy, I make up a reading list for each one of the grade levels, the students decide on which books they want to read. I've done this for all my English classes 6-12. We use Reading Counts because I can decide how many questions on each test out of a bank of 30 questions. At present we have it set up that the student must pass 8 out of 10 questions. If I can answer any other questions, please let me know We use RC. We like it. 30 four part multiple choice questions cover the content. We've neverhad a concern about language or content. Of course, they check out library books, and I screen those fairly reliably: no Phrah book of the month selections! Reading Counts is far superior to AR in its quality of tests. I've used Reading Counts for High School for the last three years and before that for 15 years (called Electronic Bookshelf) in elementary schools. My present district uses AR in primary and elementary. RC in jr. high and high school. One telling point is this: an AR test on a book--any book from Brown Bear, Brown Bear What do You see? to War and Peace--is 10 questions total. That may be okay for Brown Bear, but for high school books, no. RC has a bank of 30 top-quality questions for each title. With AR every student sees the same 10 questions for every test on a title. With RC NO student ever sees the same test on any title. There are theoretically over 3,000 tests available on every title with RC. The difference in quality of questions is obvious also. Cheating is virtually non-existant in RC and a constant problem in AR. I've watched students take tests in RC for so many years. It is downright spooky how the tests measure a student's reading effort. Invariably if they read a little, they will make a little grade, less than 40. If they read about half the book, they'll make around 50. If they read most of the book, they'll make 80 or less. If they read all the book, they'll nearly always make 100 or 90. It is the coolest thing to see effort rewarded and lack of effort so plainly obvious to the students. About the quality of books. Since RC is writing a much more sophisticated test, they choose only top-quality literature. Since AR can whip out 10-question tests by the gross, they slap a test on anything and everything. As for levels: I use the Follett catalog to decide which books are assigned which grade level. Follett labels its books RR (9th grade), YA (10th grade), YA/AD (11th grade), and AD (12th grade). Occasionally I adjust up or down based on the levels in the MARC record of the individual books. Over the years, this leveling system has served me well to ensure a range of books for each grade level--something for everyone's levels and interests. I have 1000 books in our RC program, so I've not read many of them. I know about many of them from talking to the students, reading reviews, and cataloging them. Before each RC assignment I like to go to the classrooms and get the students to talk about good books. Since all our teachers assign an RC book every three weeks, I hear a lot about a lot of good books--and a few not-so-good also. I haven't told you half the good stuff about RC or the bad stuff about AR. I hope you and your teachers choose RC, but AR will be better than nothing. At least the students will get to choose what to read--a huge improvement over assign-the-same for everyone. --- Donna Cook, Nacogdoches, Texas : Teacher Librarian Central High; District Coordinator, Central ISD; Library Consultant, Douglass ISD; "Minister of Information" First Baptist Church. donnacook@lycos.com 936-853-9345 (work) 936-569-2426 (home) Great question! Our English teachers (of which I was one until last year) average 175 students per day. The paper work for grading book reviews is staggering, so many do not assign outside reading. PLEASE POST A HIT ON YOUR FINDINGS. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. 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