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Hi Everyone, Sorry this hit is late. It is divided into three parts. Thanks again to everyone who responded to my question concerning color coding. Hope everyone has a great and safe Thanksgiving holiday. **I am not making plans to "color code" our books. We have a "green" dot on the spine which indicates it is an AR book. Inside the book is a label which denotes the reading level. That keeps that information private for a student. Yes, a 5th/4th grade student may need to read below his grade level to be successful..........and we do not need to sacrifice his self esteem. I'm really of in favor of any child reading anything as long as he/she is successful with AR........Eventually, they will read all the available "easy" books. We often forget these are children and they miss the fun and delightful "children's books by getting "trapped" and told to read only for their grade. **Our staff discussed this issue and decided that tagging all levels with an AR tag and a small but visible red dot was the best solution. It is easy for the students to find their levels, yet not so obvious to classmates! **I am in about the same situation as you are with 4 libraries with media assistants and I'm the only LMS. We have AR in all 4 with one really getting into it hot and heavy. They pushed first to pull all AR books and put them in one place. I said NO. Then they wanted the color coding on the spine. I agree that it helps the students to find appropriate books, however, I don't like adding extra garbage to the spine when the spine label already takes up plenty of space. So we compromised. They put a little sliver of colored paper above the call number. I said it couldn't be outside of the spine label nor cover the call number. That works. Inside of the book, we ran the level labels so those who need it could find the exact reading level. I'm happy. Books don't look bad. Strips aren't very noticeable. Kids who are looking can find their color. Maybe this is a solution for you. Also be aware that if you upgrade to AR 5, the levels change dramatically. I'm glad we didn't get into this big time until now. Maybe things will stay stable/static for awhile since they just made the switch. **I can give you a bit of input from two different schools of thought. In my former school, the AR books were all color coded with a single red dot on the spine, just below the spine label. The book level & points were written on the dot like a fraction: 4.9 Reading Level 2.0 Point Value This worked okay for the 3rd & 4th graders but was a nightmare for 1st & even many 2nd. Forget about kindergartners! AR information was not a part of the OPAC. In my brand-new (yay!) school's media center, I opted for a bit of refinement. I took the Reading Renaissance suggestion & changed it slightly. All books have the complete AR information inside. My books are now coded on the spines like this: 1.0 - 1.4 Lt. Blue Dots 3.0 - 3.4 Yellow Dots 1.5 - 1.9 Dk. Blue Dots 3.5 - 3.9 Orange Dots 2.0 - 2.4 Lt. Green Dots 4.0 - 4.9 Red Dots 2.5 - 2.9 Dk. Green Dots 5.0 and above Violet Dots Absolutely no one has made an issue over reading "colors". I chose these colors because I could buy the dots from a library supply store. The theory behind 4.0 & up is that if a child is reading on this level, he can open the cover & check the AR label on the fly leaf for reading level & point information. Also, since the point value is not on the outside of the book, I've had better success in reading for points as opposed to reading in your "comfort zone" --my term for ZPD. Also, for the beginning readers, they can look for a light blue dot much easier than reading an AR label on the spine--commercially purchased or prepared myself. Some teachers even send the children to the media center with a card listing their ZPD and colored marker showing the "color zone" they should choose. Also, we can quickly walk the shelves & easily find a book in a child's reading range--helpful with a class of 20 or a flex time crowd of 50. So far the new plan is working much, much better than the former. Good luck with whatever choice you make. **We have had AR in our building K- 5 for the last four years. We color code and it helps immensely when students need books. I have fifth graders who are only at a 1.0 level (which is yellow in my bldg.) and we have had no major problems. When the program first started four years ago there were a few problems. I then had a talk with each class... long story short, just because someone wears glasses and needs help to see - someone in a lower level colored book has not had as much practice reading... etc... I can honestly say we do not have any problems now with color coding the books. Good Luck it is a great program and really encourages reading. **Linda, in my middle school of abut 1100 students, I do have my AR books color coded. I have not had any complaints from either students or parents about this. The thing is, it is just so much easier and faster for the students to choose their books. Also it saves a lot of wear and tear on the books and less shelving if they do not have to pull the books out to see what level they are. I know there are a some negatives to have the books color coded, and I certainly understand that, but it has worked well for me. **We have had AR in our schools for three years. The elementary librarian and I have used different approaches. She has labeled all AR with green dots and shelves all the fiction according to reading level. The shelves are labeled accordingly. Her goal is to have all AR in her library. I have labeled all AR with green dots but shelve them in with the regular fiction. I have separated the lower level- 5.0 and less. I do not like shelving by level because I think kids will not browse and attempt any higher level book. Our kids 6-8 grade are bad about refusing to read anything that is not AR. They miss a lot of great literature that way. However, I have found that when I am busy and kids are needing help, it is easier to point them to a section of the library to choose from. Also, I quit ordering the pre-made disks and sets. I felt that a lot of the books included were out-of-date. Instead, I keep a consideration file of books to order; order those and make custom disks to go with them. I also keep a file of tests requested by the teachers. Another tip, I now put the reading level and points on the dot on the spine rather than on the end paper. It is much easier to find the level you need on the regular shelves. **When I was the librarian at the middle school, I chose to use the different colors while the librarian at the other middle school chose to use one color for all AR books. I felt it made it much easier for students to find a book within their reading range. Most teachers use some system to determine reading level and then want students to stay within a similiar range. If all AR books have the same colored label, how would students know which books were in their reading range? Would they have to look at the label on every book to determine the reading level? I feel this is frustrating, and it is very time-consuming. When I explained about the different colors, I never called it a "reading" level or "grade" level. I simply called it a code level or color level and explained that the level was determined by the difficulty of the vocabulary and plot. I think students seldom "caught on" that the color actually stood for a grade level. I never had a student or parent complain. However, I do know that students and parents often complained at the other middle school where all books had one color. Also, when the elementaries started using AR, they all chose to use the same colors that I used because they also felt it was easiest and best for students. **When I started AR, I met with opposition to about the color coding by reading levels. My argument: Labeling the books' reading labels with color dots saves a lot of searching time. If a students needs a book in the 3rd grade reading level, the books are easy to spot on the shelf. Otherwise they waste a great deal of time checking the cover or the inside of the book or the list to see if it is the appropriate reading level. Kids aren't stupid, they know not everyone can be good at everything. They can tell who are the good athletes, the bad atheletes, the slow learners, the quick learners. They can pick out the leaders and the ones who make good followers. They can tell who are teachers' pets and who are easy prey for "picking." They know who are good readers and who aren't. A child in 4th grade reading "Go, Dog, Go" will be seen as a struggling reader, whether it has a colored dot on it or not. Students need to be taught respect for everyone's learning. I never had trouble with kids teasing each other about reading ability. They understood that no matter how good of a reader, or athlete, or artist, they are, there is ALWAYS room for improvement. Besides, those who weren't very good at reading could show the most improvement!! Put the color coded dots on the books and teach kids about respect for learning. **If you look in the archives you will find LOTS of discussion about this very thing. If you don't know how to access them, read over your new subscriber letter you got from Peter. It has the instructions. The very condensed version of my opinion is that I am a library, and not an AR warehouse. In fact, if I want to get my grant, I have to have books arranged in a bibliographic manner. All your concerns about labeling kids is VERY VALID. My entire soapbox tirade can be found in the archives sometime in late 1998 or early 1999(I think). Good luck. You'll need it. The AR people are very forceful, but stand up for what's right. Our job is to foster a love of reading, not know "where the 2.0 or blue books are." **Hi, Linda. In our district of 33 elementary schools all with AR, many color codes as AR suggested. Now with the new version many of the "dots" are not valid and must be changed or something. Who has the time to do and redo? Who is to say in another 3 years AR won't create another version that changes all the dots. In discussing this with Advantage Learning it is clear that they are a money-driven organization and aren't concerned about the logistics of their program (the nuts and bolts of making it work in the school). I also have a problem with children looking for a book by "dot" color rather than by author, genre, desire, etc. I think the dot color should be secondary in choice. There is also some evidence that teachers are "dot" oriented and are reluctant to let the kids read outside of their "dot" even if the interest is there. This goes against the research on increasing reading skills by Krashen, Trelease and others. It's not they are against AR, it is the abuse that can happen. Good luck. **I share your opinion . I had considered using the different colored dots and decided against it although I think it is a good idea. All of our AR books have a blue dot with the reading level written on it. Students catch on fairly quickly what numbers fall within their range. I have also put up a chart showing the progression (o.3, 0.4, 0.5, etc.) Our school is grades 1-3. I have put the Rookie Readers in one section, and the other lower levels, up to 1.7 in a separate area to make that search easier. Other books are shelved within the collection. **Don't kids know what titles are "higher" and "lower" anyway? If a fifth grade student is reading a picture book or an easy chapter book the other students will know regardless of any color stickers. Putting the color code just makes it easier to find a book in a particular reading level. End Part I ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. 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