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Many of you asked for the information I got. I have cut and pasted leaving only the city of origin so you can judge how useful it might be to you - I didn't ask ahead of time to publish replies so I don't want to give out identifying info... Thanks for all of you helpful answers; I now know which direction to go. Becky HERE WE GO-------------------- We have one from an outside company. The LMT before me set it up. We don't make any money on it that I'm aware of, unless it goes into our account in the office. They provide paper, toner, everything and they have the key to the money box. They come from time to time and empty money and leave paper. I call them if it needs repairs. It's nice because we can tell kids we don't handle money in here at all. They have to get change at the student store. It doesn't provide copies for us. Fortunately the career center is in the library and they have one we can use for small batches. For big jobs we use the big machines in the admin building. Riverside, California ------------------------------------- We have been looking for a new copier and wanted one that the company would own and service and keep all the money from. What we were told by several local dealers was that if the copier doesn't generate at least $100/month it wouldn't be worth it to them. We are a medium sized school (1000 students and currently generate $40 month at .10/copy. Our 2 options are lease the machine for about $100 per month or buy a refurbished machine for around $3800. Both of these options include a dollar bill/coin operated system and a service contract billed at .02 per copy. Service covers everything but paper and we keep all of the money. Purchasing is probably the best option. We are going with a local vendor who promises to service the machine as long as we own it. We will probably raise the price to .15/copy to help recoup the cost quicker. I hate raising the price because our students are so poor, but it will take me about 8 or 9 years to recoup the expenses. Livingston High School, Livingston, CA ------------------------------------------- We have a Mita coin-op that we lease/purchase from a local co. We pay a maintenance fee based on # of copies/month. This fee includes all repairs, and supplies as well as regular cleaning etc. The local co. is great. They are here whenever we call. The co. that carries the lease is Advanta and is terrible!! They tried to bill us for 3 mos. before we even had the copier on site. We have regular billing problems with them. I still would recommend the lease/purchase plan. Irvington, AL ----------------------------- At [previous school], we had a co. supply the copier, paper, ink, toner, with 100 free copies a year with my bypass key, which I probably abused by 50, and never was charged. Kids had to think about it, when they have to pay. At [current school], We have a free one here...teachers and kids love it. But, I am seeing more waste this way. My sec. says "No more than usual." The old copier was always breaking down here, [previous librarian] let it go. Plus, it was always a dilemma...having one to pay, and one that was free....that's a no-brainer for kids. Edmonds,WA -------------------------------- I have a company called K and M Business systems out of Redmond that has a pay copier in the library. It has been here since I came about 7 years ago. They supply everything. There's no cost to me, and they do come promptly for repairs. They also come periodically and clean it. Edmonds,WA --------------------- We have always had K and M Business Services handle our copying needs in the library. They charge .10 per copy and supply all paper and toner. We get a couple hundred free copies per year. The service is fast, generally same day if a repair is needed. Our copier is an older model, which produces primitive gray images, but if you need a copy, you need one. It's used quite a bit, though probably not like getting free at [other school]; they'll probably grumble about having to pay. Lynnwood ,WA ---------------------------------- We currently have a leased machine with Xerox. They take care of the repairs. We leased the coin box from another company and a card thingy (sorry don't know the technical term) so that teachers can use cards to copy from a 3rd company. I don't recommend doing it this way. This machine is on its last legs and our board is forcing us to purchase the next one. We purchased the big copier in our office a few years ago and it seems to be cheaper than leasing. Saanichton, British Columbia Canada, V8M 1S8 ---------------------------------------- About a year or so ago someone on this list suggested TRM and left the Philadelphia-area rep's phone number. We have a new machine with coin box, service has been wonderful, and it costs us nothing because they supply paper and toner! They call once a month to ask for a meter reading and send us a bill. Looks like headquarters is in Portland (Phone: 503-257-8766). Wilmington, DE 19810 --------------------------------- We have had a coin copier for our high school students for about 12 years. It has worked just fine. They provide the machine, the paper, the toner, etc. We provide the location and electricity. When the machine jams we do try to fix it and we load the paper trays. We call them for all other problems and they have been great in coming within 24 hours. We charged a dime a copy and the company gave us a penny back. This year I raised the price to 15 cents and I'm keeping six cents now. Our last check was for $100 (two months.). this pays for the expenses on my library office machine. Do not let them keep all the money. ----------------------------------- There are no companies in Tucson, that any of us can locate, that continue to put coin-operated copiers in libraries any more. The one that was in my library was picked up in August. It was no longer profitable for the company. Free copies were part of the arrangement in past years. Tucson, AZ 85746-9099 ----------------------------------------- We have two coin-op copiers in our library and both are used lots. We own one. The other is a freebie. The one we own is a Canon, and we make monthly payments of about $240 each month year 'round. This includes purchase price, toner (we call whenever we need more and they send it), and maintenance. I think the purchase price is spread over about three to four years. It's a great machine -- makes enlargements, prints on three paper sizes, prints back to back. We easily make the money on the copy charges (10 cents per page) to pay for the monthly fee and have a little extra left to buy books. The only other cost is the paper, which we have to supply, but we use the school's general supply stash, so there's no direct cost to us for that. The freebie is supplied by a local company. They place the copier, supply toner and maintenance, and keep all the profits. We supply the paper. If we go over a certain number of copies (I can't remember the number) we get to keep a two-cent profit per page. Our school has 2800 students in grades 10-12. We encourage kids to copy as a study technique so they can highlight and organize their notes, so lots of copying is done. Newtown, PA ----------------------------------- We had to go out for bids (min. 3) and so stayed local. I talked our principal into splitting costs - about 25% from my equipment fund, the rest from him. We purchased a Canon with a coin machine and charge .10/copy. I run a "book club" and we are the ones who make the profit, and use the money to subsidize book selections we read, new books for the Library, and "community service" book purchases. We get paper from the school supply and I purchase toner from my Library supplies $$ - so far no one has questioned that, although I know many groups who profit from the photocopiers must pay for their own supplies. This is not a huge money-maker, but we are able to get some books! Queensbury, NY 12804 --------------------------------- Ikon had a copier in our library but removed it last summer - it wasn't making them enough money ;( We replaced it with a little Canon copier... and love it... free copies of research materials only (this takes a little enforcing at the beginning, but they get it finally...) The joys of not having pages ripped out of reference books or having whole books stolen because the kid doesn't have any change are OVER.... yea!! Clarksville, TN 37043 --------------------------The End-------------------------------------- Rebecca Endlich Librarian Edmonds-Woodway High School endlichr@edmonds.wednet.edu 7600-212th St. SW ph.425-670-7311 ext.6127 Edmonds, WA 98026 fax 425-670-7922 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.html See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=