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"In addition I think that a lot of people are not going into the profession because of the difficulty in finding the training. Since in most cases you have to have a bachelor's degree and/or a teaching certificate first, it means that people are often settled before they begin to persue the degree. Since there are not many schools that offer this program ( at least not in Michigan-especially if you live in the western part of the state-Thanks GVSU) it is difficult to persue the program. " So true - I live in Texas (a huge state as it is) and while UT-Austin is closer to Laredo (where I live), I finished my school library certification classes in a school four hours further (Sam Houston State - Huntsville) because this school brought classes to our area, in addition to offering them on Saturdays. Although I am so grateful for SHSU and I feel that I really learned what I need to know about school libraries, I would really have liked to have had an ALA-accredited master's program to provide more flexibility in future opportunities. At the time, UT Austin did not offer any distance-learning and online courses were unheard of (this was 1994-95). There was no way I could travel to Austin during the week and work. I feel that the online university trend will help avoid this situation. I hope that the online university trend continues because even though many of our classes were reasonably accessible (often within 2 hours driving), to continue the master's will be more difficult unless we have this new wave of education (i.e. completing an entire master's online). I've heard that Eastern Connecticut U. and Florida State U. have a complete on-line master's. I don't know if these would count toward a Texas certification. Anybody out there with some info? Carol Valdez, Librarian Salvador Garcia Middle School 499 Pena Dr. Laredo, TX 78046 956.724.4113 fax: 956.724.6566 cvaldez@uisd.net http://www.united.isd.tenet.edu/middle/sgm/ -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of Darlene A Yasick Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:51 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Changing face of school library media centers I see people everyday saying they are librarians/media specialists when in truth some aren't even certified teachers (Wow that didn't come out the way I wanted it to-please don't send me the teacher/librarian flames--I would say the same thing about someone who was in a classroom saying they were a math teacher and wasn't certified) The school district considers them media specialists and list them as so because their assigned location is the library! That helps to perpetuate the idea that one doesn't have to have a special degree to do this job. I think it reflects on the wonderful and dedicated people who work as aides/ parapros/clerks--they often do such as good job that the school district feels it would be silly to pay for a professional at a teacher's salary when they can pay an aide $7-10 an hour and "get the same thing" ( I worked as an aide for eight years and never would have introduced myself as the librarian) Also if you look at the suggested staffing levels set up by the different states and accreditation agencies (didn't there used to be a standard in Info Power) you will see that is most cases these numbers seem very low and can be used to jusitify cuts/eliminations. So at a time when our expertise is most needed due to the glut of information and the pressing need to raise information literate citizens, we seem to be most expendable. The very situation that makes us more important, the vast amount of information at our finger tips makes it seem like we are not needed. Our knowledge in training others to evaluate and locate information is crucial. In addition I think that a lot of people are not going into the profession because of the difficulty in finding the training. Since in most cases you have to have a bachelor's degree and/or a teaching certificate first, it means that people are often settled before they begin to persue the degree. Since there are not many schools that offer this program ( at least not in Michigan-especially if you live in the western part of the state-Thanks GVSU) it is difficult to persue the program. Just my opinion. Darlene Yasick, Media Specialist Hopkins High School lib027yas@juno.com Only a mediocre person is always at his best. Somerset Maugham =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. 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