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My original post with a summary and actual responses: POST: I searched the archives and found two related but I would like more of a concensus. With all of the associations out there which do you feel you must belong to and maybe even tell me why. My budget is dwindling and my ALA membership renewal is in hand. I will post a hit and I really would appreciate some professional advice on this. -----------------------------------------------------------------------> SUMMARY: Thank you all for the responses. Of 21 responses, ALA= 9,> AASL= 4, YALSA=1, NEA=2, STATE=10, REGIONAL= 4, IRA=1, PLA=1, LSC=1. Not everyone addressed each of these but this is a tabulation of what was mentioned for advocating membership. This really helps me see some interesting points. I appreciate your opinions. RESPONSES: Our state association is an absolute must for me and the cost is pretty low, especially compared to ALA. However, I continue to join ALA as well and probably always will. I joined as a library school student was cheap back in the '80s and attended my first Annual Conference in '87 and got "hooked" and haven't missed many since then. I enjoy meeting colleagues from all over and the professional quality of the programs. I also like getting American Libraries and the other publications. And you do get a discount on things like posters, professional books, etc. I think it's very important to belong and be active in professional organizations and I have served on ALA committees which I believe enhances leadership skills. Hope this helps. I feel that AASL/ALA, your state school association and any regional associations are necessary. AASL because of the advocacy, standards and materials which they provide for school libraries. Also if you choose an institutional membership you receive Ophra Books free more than covering the cost of membership. Your state and regional membership for the interaction with other school library professionals and to offer support to these organizations for the work they do in promoting school libraries. I would love to belong to ALA but my school and personal budget won't allow it. I belong to the state library association. I have found the conferences and contacts helpful and encouraging. I also belong to the state teachers organization (not NEA) for the professional insurance coverage provided and I feel that I am a teacher and need to support that group. I always felt our national and state professional organizations were something that we could NOT afford to put aside. My spouse pays $1200.00 per year for his union membership (and BTW my base salary was very comparable and considering benefits more than his -- thus dispelling the theory that "those construction workers can afford it." ;>) -- and all of my memberships ALA, NEA (state and local affiliates), IRA (International Reading Association) local and state affilitate did not approximate his cost. Just perhaps some of our relunctance to support our professional organizations is part of the reason we are seeing so much discussion of LMS being told to make up classes missed on professional days, no subs hired for classes, no aides in library media center, and so forth. I belong to ALA with a membership in AASL. I belong to my local and state teacher's associations (NOT NEA), the state library association and the National Storytelling Association, because I'm a storyteller. It seems like a lot, but I believe I receive benefits from all. I only belong to the New Jersey Educational Media Assn. and I enjoy the services of this List-serve. My state assn. is pretty strong and runs wonderful conferences and support. List serve helps me with the library world out there...lets me know I'm not alone everyday! I belong only to my state school library media specialists organization. I can't afford to belong to ALA and then pay extra in order to join the subgroups that actually speak to my job. I am a member of ALA (including AASL) and PSLA (Pennsylvania School Librarians Association), both of which I pay for personally. I retain membership because they are professional support. Thank goodness, I have not needed to call on either for support in a challenge situation or any other crisis, major or minor, but there would be support there if I needed it. Second, I feel strongly that, as a professional, I should support organizations of this sort. Third, I want these memberships on my resume. Fourth, their journals are useful. If money were a prohibitive issue for me, I would still feel strongly and would use school district money if possible. However, I pay for them myself because I want the school district money to go as far as possible toward resources for students. When money is tight, my preference is also for the state library association first. My theory is that it is "closer to home" and will address MY needs more effectively. My second choice are local associations, but those are generally fairly inexpensive. ALA is nice, but......whew! This is a very interesting topic. I would also like to expand it to include some thoughts about our major national organization (ALA), and what difference a person with strong school librarian background might make. We again have a person with a school librarian background running for president. Is there anything that we should expect to happen when such a person is our president that would not be expected to happen when a public or academic librarian is our president? Are our expectations different? If so, what are they? If not, then why not? I am not sure I know the answer to this question, if there is an answer, but I will tell you that during his term as governor there were some state standards for public school libraries and librarians adopted; however, I am not singing praises on this in view of the fact that there are no teeth in these standards. They are voluntary standards and many many schools in Texas have not put them in place. Many, Many, schools in Texas still use librarians as prep time for teachers when the research is quite clear that librarians and teachers should collaborate and teach research, and "library skills" together. These standards are excellant and districts should be required to implement them. As a preface, I've been a member of ALA and AASL since I graduated Library school and started work as a school librarian. I didn't really pay much attention to who was ALA president until I started working at Wilson, and I had School Library Journal as one of the magazines that I indexed regularly. This just a general impression. There's nothing that I can easily point to as hard evidence. And finding it will take some time on a fast internet connection. It seems to me that when a school librarian is president of ALA, the organization looks at librarianship as a whole that is made up of many parts. When someone with a public library background is president, the organization seems to regard it as the only major aspect of librarianship. In many ways the school librarians recognized (at least the ones here on LM_NET) that they are between a rock and a hard place. Are they teachers? Is a good part of the job teaching? Yes. The goal isn't answers to questions. The goal is let's learn how to find answers to questions. Is the goal just having books for daily or weekly reading? Or, is the goal learning how find the books needed for daily or weekly reading? At the same time, do school librarians function as librarians do in other areas? Do they have budgets to draw up and spend? Do they provide books and materials to meet the needs of their patrons? Are they consumed with opacs and circulation. All... yes. In the same way, Is ALA an organization with one aspect of librarianship to promote, or should it promote librarianship as a whole? I find that ALA looks at librarianship as a whole when a school librarian is running the show. I can't point to one particular thing or another, but I'll see what I can find. The broadness of attitude of school librarians shows in another way (IMHO). The wide range of the posting membership of LM_NET. I've seen posts from library school professors, college librarians, children's librarians, vendors, school district level librarians, retired school librarians, and library school students. And of course the main group for this list. It is a stark contrast to the much smaller range of librarians posting on the Public library list. I am a member of ALA, and division member of AASL (school librarians) ALSC = (children's librarians ) Yalsa (Young Adult librarians) and PLA (Public = librarians) Why national membership- ALA is where I get my batteries charged. I go to = as many book discussion groups as possible ALSC and Yalsa notable books = and best books are open to anyone to listen in. This is where a lot of my = book ordering comes from (even if a book does not make the final list, it = may be of interest to my collection. I get enthusiastic about titles, read = them, order then book talk them to my kids. Programs- story telling, = evaluating websites, public policy, advocacy training, heads-up on what = may be going on nationally that will effect my job and my library. = Exhibits- Last year I bought a laminator, great deal, this year a really = cool, not dangerous paper cutter. Books, Books Books, new books to hold in = my hand , new technology. Authors- right there, up close, signing books = that I love. =20 Librarians, Librarians, Librarians everywhere. I am not alone. I have had = the greatest discussions just waiting in lines. Work on Committees. This = is where I really meet interesting dedicated librarians and have an = opportunity to give service in return for all that I have receive. Mail- Knowledge Quest and Journal of Youth Services keep me in touch with = what is current in the profession. I just like reading Public Libraries as = a former public librarian. Local membership- Hudson Valley Library Association - this one is for = independent school librarians- colleagues with similar libraries sharing successes, information and strategies. New York Library Association- Like ALA but not so overwhelming. -- DaShannon Lovin Blanchester High School Library Media Specialist lovind@blanchester.k12.oh.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST), send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. 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