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Dear 'NETters: Thank you so much for your input as to whether or not keeping an accession=20 book is worth the effort expended in these days of automated circulation=20 systems. You have validated my decision to spend the time with my students=20 and teachers rather than doing paperwork. Sorry it took me so long to get=20 things together. Score, by the way, was: Automated Systems 26, Accession=20 Books 0. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We do not keep an accession book any more.=A0 Every time I add new entries t= o the automated system, I print out a list in barcode order of the books that I have just entered and keep the lists in a notebook. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Can it honey...everything is linked to the barcode record? If you put everything in you don't even need a shelf list anymore...I know=20 this is stepping on some toes who still keep a shelf - I would rather "play"= =20 with kids. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NO I have never done one even before automating.=A0 NO TIME. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I haven't had an accession book for 20 years; ever since we automated and through out card catalog and shelf list file.=A0 Never once missed it. Everything we need to know is in the automation system including serial numbers on equipment +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We always accessioned books.=A0 However, with automation, that is the first thing I would stop doing.=A0 A few of my seasoned colleagues still accession= , but can't give me a good reason for doing so - except habit.=A0 A much bette= r use of time is interacting with people or computers, not with accession books.=A0=20 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The barcode number used in automation systems is comparable to the accession number we used to use.=A0 There is no reason to keep an accession book today= . It is VITAL to keep a back-up of your data off site-this provides another copy of your collection in case something happens to the computer.=A0 Of course, in order to be accurate, this need to be done often. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ For about one year after automating I did keep an accession book. There is NO reason for keeping the old kind of written record if your circ/cat system is a good one. I can sort by date entered, thereby making a printout of the year's acquisitions and so many other NICE reports. It's double and needless the way I see it. I do keep a printed shelflist of the ENTIRE collection. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Even with a card catalog system the accession book info can be put on the shelf list card.=A0=A0 We do use 6 digit accession numbers rather tha= n copy 1 , 2 , 3 etc..=A0 Those are recorded on the shelf list card. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nope, quit keeping it when I automated in '93 and have never missed it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do not keep an accession book.=A0 My Concourse automated system is capable= =20 of printing out accession records should I need them. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The library that I took over 8 years ago was not automated.=A0 I kept up the= =20 accession book until we went through a retrospective conversion.=A0 Now the=20 material recordserves the same purpose.=A0 It has the date the book was adde= d=20 to the collection, a unique number (the barcode) and all of the information=20 about the material (much more than I used to keep with an accession book) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ no! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I keep mine in a desk drawer in my office as an historical document, especially because my mother established the first middle school library media center back in 1973.=A0 It's interesting to look back and see what was ordered and how limited budgets were during those times. However, I only use the computer anymore for listing new books.=A0 Our time=20= is so limited as is, so why duplicate? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ no, the barcode becomes the accession number, and that is all available in your system. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ No, we have not had an accession book in years; since before I started in the library. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I quit this year.=A0 I really couldn't come up with a good reason to keep on= e anymore.=A0 I can get a report on the value of the collection easily through the automation program and replacement information is as near as the Internet.=A0 So...I'll be glad to hear from others who differ. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ No! I discarded the accession book when I discarded the card catalog & the=20 shelf list...and that was as soon as I cataloged the last book in our=20 collection. I didn't have room for all that stuff and I didn't want to do=20 the work twice. Just keep many backups and get rid of all that stuff! I=20 haven't missed any of it in the 6 or 7 years that we have been automated. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ,=A0=A0 I gave up the accession book when we first automated with just a circulation program (in the days when a 5 Mb hard drive was a big deal).=A0 I've never missed it.=A0 Keeping track of an accession number and a different barcode number would be confusing, and making them both the same would be a chore except in a new library. =A0=A0 I continued making catalog cards (including shelf list) until we got a combined circ/cat program a few years ago.=A0 I consult the old shelf list (now three years out of date) maybe ten times a year for some info. not yet on the computer (we're not finished with retrospective conversion). =A0=A0 The important thing is to have lots and LOTS of backups of your automation program's data, preferably kept in more than one building. My school's server literally burned up a few years ago.=A0 At another time, I was within one backup of losing three years' work.=A0 I do print out a shelf list every few years. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ No, I do not keep up-to-date accession books.=A0 But I did keep the old ones= , the first was painstakingly handwritten in 1917, with the number 1.=A0 So mu= ch work, by so many people over the years, I just couldn't throw them away.=A0=20= Of course, all OUR work can be erased by a blip of electricity, but that is a different story.=A0 Number one was LITTLE WOMEN! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All of our schools stopped using an accession book about two years after switching to Follett.=A0 We do use a category number for the year of purchase but have actually found little use even for that.=A0 The Follett record seems to be adequate for our needs. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NO!=A0 Forget that. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Haven't kept one in thirty years as a librarian.=A0 If I missed something, i= t=20 was never evident to me.=A0 My secretary insists on keeping a paper shelf-li= st=20 file, but the minute she retires, I plan to get rid of that, too.=A0 My=20 assumption is that any time spent on clerical matters detracts from time=20 spent with teachers and kids.=A0 Do what's necessary to make the library wor= k=20 and not a speck more.=A0 My $.02. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We do not keep an accession book any more but I do still put one in the book and note in the copy information.=A0 I feel it gives me one more way to identify multiple copies of books.=A0 So often we have to play detective I thought one more clue maybe helpful.=A0 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't keep a book in the traditional manner.=A0=A0 Our automated systems n= eeds to updated ( new hardware and software wanted to make it true OPAC) so I keep a record=A0 of titles added and source of funding ( general fund, donation etc) for my reports to the administration.=A0 =A0 It helps to have=20= this all in one place since the data in the automated is constantly=A0 up-dated since titles can be easily added or deleted. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't keep an accession book anymore but I still have a shelf-list....(I=20 think I may ditch that at the end of this year.) I figure the barcode no#=20 replaces the accession no# ....and the other info we used to add such as=20 $/date/vendor/date discarded can all be added to the automation record. =A0 =A0 The only reason I keep the shelf list is because it takes a couple y= ears=20 to work out the automation bugs....for example we still haven't been able to= =20 get an inventory report from scanning our collection! ....also, there were=20 books on the shelf in June that didn't have records (corrected)....and=20 records for books that don't exist anymore...and the only way I know this is= =20 because I checked my shelf list. Now (knock on wood) both are accurate enoug= h=20 for me to suspend the shelf list. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NO!! But I do have excellent backups stored off campus so that in the event my library is destroyed, there is a record of what was in it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Robin Boltz, MLS Student, East Carolina University LMC Creedmoor Elementary, Creedmoor, NC futuremlsecu@aol.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=